Is london the centre of bad driving in the UK

Is london the centre of bad driving in the UK

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thinfourth2

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32,414 posts

211 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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It has always struck me that the closer you get to london the worst driving standards are

Is it just me?

Shape Shifter

5,188 posts

244 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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More people = greater variability.

I've seen some dreadful driving in London but also some really inspired stuff.


blueg33

38,542 posts

231 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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No London is ok, try South Wales particularly the Valleys, Cardiff and Newport - drving in that area is so frustrating, the drivers are even bad on virtually empty roads.

mat205125

17,790 posts

220 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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I've always thought that the honour must surely go to Birmingham.

Jasandjules

70,505 posts

236 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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London has it's own Highway Code.

For example, an Amber Traffic light in London means drive faster to get through.. A Red Traffic light means "just three more cars". Changing lanes is move, signal or mirror being optional.


Craphouserat

1,525 posts

208 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Dundee - these idiots all indicate right when approaching a roundabout and in the left hand lane going straight on - always, regardless of what road marking tell them - everything stops on the fking roundabout because some moron going straight on is indicating to go right around.

Guybrush

4,364 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Jasandjules said:
London has it's own Highway Code.

For example, an Amber Traffic light in London means drive faster to get through.. A Red Traffic light means "just three more cars".
When lights are phased to create congestion rather than improve flow, that's how many drivers will adapt.

Orb the Impaler

1,881 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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I tend to agree that it's London; I lived there for a bit in 93/94 and went back last year and was shocked - it appeared to be anarchy. I probably won't make too many friends when I say that it appeared to be various ethnics that were far and away the worst. Some areas street scenes looked like Calcutta, simply chaos.

I think it's a city thing though; I'm now working in central Manchester and it's bad there too. London is a lot bigger and more crowded, so it's only logical.

MarJay

2,174 posts

182 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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I heard that Telford in Shropshire has the worst standard of driving anywhere in the UK. I believe that is borne out by official statistics.

kambites

68,438 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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London is the centre of aggressive driving in the UK, which feels like the same thing until you get used to it.

Mazda Baiter

37,068 posts

195 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Never been to Bradford eh?

That is bad. A nightmare in an HGV.

The Wookie

14,040 posts

235 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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kambites said:
London is the centre of aggressive driving in the UK, which feels like the same thing until you get used to it.
Yep, it can be quite draining if you're in it every day if you don't 'get it'.

Eventually you have to make a choice, go with the flow, accept you're going to get carved up and just leave earlier, or become a carve up king and knock 25% off of all of your journeys at the expense of risking a lynch mob forming at your destination.

havoc

30,895 posts

242 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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kambites said:
London is the centre of aggressive driving in the UK, which feels like the same thing until you get used to it.
Agreed. I also agree with Orb though...the majority of 'just plain bad' driving I see comes from people who appear to be recent additions to our population! That some of them may have been born here just makes it worse IMHO!

FamilyGuy

850 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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It's 20 years since I lived in London but I used to think it was a centre of driving excellence. It's fast, busy and aggressive but it all seemed to work. People concentrated and were skilful because survival depended upon it. Roundabouts were poetry in motion with cars pulling out and neatly slotting into spaces with only a couple of feet to spare.

Where I live now if a taxi flicked on his indicator and simultaneously pulled away from the curb and did a uey then there'd be a 10 car pile-up. In London everyone would spot it and mildly adjust their speed to accommodate.

RDM

1,860 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Although the driving is relatively poor in Newport SW, I find that it's the
pedestrians there that are even worse, their road awareness is shocking.

Someone said Birmingham....this is the correct answer, you only have to drive the
M6 and you can visibly see the standard of driving change as you approach.

iggletiggle

1,380 posts

192 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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You have obviously never been into deepest Norfolk, the driving there is awful.

Second to Norfolk is almost certainly the valleys (Newport and Cardiff are just plain silly), followed by Birmingham then London i would say..

Drederick Tatum

1,033 posts

192 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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FamilyGuy said:
It's 20 years since I lived in London but I used to think it was a centre of driving excellence. It's fast, busy and aggressive but it all seemed to work. People concentrated and were skilful because survival depended upon it. Roundabouts were poetry in motion with cars pulling out and neatly slotting into spaces with only a couple of feet to spare.

Where I live now if a taxi flicked on his indicator and simultaneously pulled away from the curb and did a uey then there'd be a 10 car pile-up. In London everyone would spot it and mildly adjust their speed to accommodate.
Anyone who regularly drives into Central London knows this is true, I cant comment on Birmingham but the few times I have been there it hasn’t been any worse then anywhere else in the UK, by far the worse driving I have seen is out in the sticks

blueg33

38,542 posts

231 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Worked in Brum for years, South Wales definately worse.

isee

3,713 posts

190 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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swerni said:
I always find when you head away from London the driving deteriorates.
In London most people are decisive and predicable.

Move further afield and most of them dawdle around like a bunch of retarded senior citizens out for a Sunday jaunt.
I tend to agree with that in general with the exception of non hire car priusi, red buses and low performance asian/oriental cars.

The Wookie

14,040 posts

235 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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iggletiggle said:
You have obviously never been into deepest Norfolk, the driving there is awful.

Second to Norfolk is almost certainly the valleys (Newport and Cardiff are just plain silly), followed by Birmingham then London i would say..
That is true. London drivers are aggressive and discourteous, but in Norfolk you can barely drive for 10 minutes without getting stuck behind a hundred and twelvety year old woman peering over the dash of her micra doing 22mph, or having to dodge the reams of incompetent idiots who don't indicate, hold their lane over roundabouts, use their mirrors or move out of the bloody way when they're sat doing 59mph in the outside lane of the A11