C4/C5 Owners beware of theft

C4/C5 Owners beware of theft

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vetteheadracer

Original Poster:

8,271 posts

258 months

Sunday 15th February 2004
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This story is in this months Classic American

You all know your VIN number is on display under the glass on the front screen.
Well, somebody recently tried to get a key cut at OCW using the VIN for a car they don't own! They also had the Logbook for the car, presumably those nice people at the DVLA supplied it based on the description and the VIN number regardless of proof of ownership.
Seems Amanda at OCW thought the guys behaviour was odd on the phone and that he wanted the keys urgently. Turns out the VIN number she had been given belonged to guy at AC Automotive!
Read the full story as it makes very scary reading

I am planning to cover my VIN number, it might be wise to consider doing the same for yours if it is left anywhere public.

If someone tries to steal my car they are going to get

malc350

1,035 posts

251 months

Sunday 15th February 2004
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Good idea Nige, don't know why any of us hasn't thought about covering the VIN before. I can't think of any cars other than US cars that have a visible VIN?

Amazingly (this is fact because it happened to me) If someone else applies for a log book for a car, DVLA will write to the registered keeper giving them 2 weeks to contest the application. Otherwise they'll send out a new log book to the person who's applied for it!

That would be nice to come home to if you've been on a long holiday!

I'm not political but our laws do seem to favour the easy way out...

ZR1427

17,999 posts

254 months

Sunday 15th February 2004
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I find this alarming(pardon the pun) is this possible??

BTW, thanks for the warning.

Viper

10,005 posts

278 months

Sunday 15th February 2004
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never thought about, thanks for that info i'll cover mine to and post this on the viper site to

te51cle

2,342 posts

253 months

Sunday 15th February 2004
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I find a Santa Pod ticket covers it up nicely !

phoenix Viper

747 posts

249 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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Just show's you that only the criminal fraternity would think of using your Vin like that.
Thank's for bringing it to our attention I would never have thought to cover the Vin but I'm gona do now.

malc350

1,035 posts

251 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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Any C4 owners tried covering their VIN yet? There aint a lot of space there! Had to squeeze in a real thin bit of black plastic card.

Better than getting your car nicked though...

malc350

1,035 posts

251 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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Actually one thing's just occurred to me for a C4 (don't know whether C5s or Vipers are the same?)

Our ignition keys have one of 15 different types of resistance pellets in the key that the VATS system needs to read before starting the car.

Anyone asking for 15 ignition keys to be cut with the same pattern might arouse some suspicion!!!

vetteheadracer

Original Poster:

8,271 posts

258 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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The C5 has the same pellet, but the VIN number determines which of the 15 is correct!

malc350

1,035 posts

251 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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vetteheadracer said:
The C5 has the same pellet, but the VIN number determines which of the 15 is correct!


Makes you wonder what GM smart*rse had the idea of displaying the VIN to the world!

Actually if I was being a sm*rt*rse I'd say that Callaway Corvette owners shouldn't have to worry as our cars carry a different VIN - when converted Callway replace the original VIN with their own sequence.

Must have some clout with Chevrolet to get away with that one...

anonymous-user

59 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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This seems incredible! My other car is over 6 years old and also has visible VIN - I'd assumed it was standard practice with the purpose of REDUCING the opportunity for thieves. It sounds totally bonkers if cars effectively have their key numbers (and alarm/immobiliser codes?) on display.

Now where did I put that handy bit of black card.....

C5RagTop

1,610 posts

253 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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Found the bit of black card but where's my car ......

ZR1427

17,999 posts

254 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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C5RagTop said:
Found the bit of black card but where's my car ......






Sorry!,just borrowed it.........thanks for the tip Nige

blackzr

280 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th February 2004
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Makes you wonder what GM smart*rse had the idea of displaying the VIN to the world!
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Its a legal requirement!! Blame the stupid Federal government.

The ignition key code is not determined by the VIN but by the programmed resistance value in the CCM. Only the door key sequence is from the VIN