Mk1 Focus RS - how can the values still be staying up?

[briSk]

Has anyone else had a look in the classifieds at the focus RS bit?
there are gazillions of RSeseses in there.for a long time there were never that many and what ones there were were advertised on PH. but clearly the owners are getting itchy feet or something.

I just can;t see the supply:demand being enough to sustain the c£11-12k pricing...

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[Chris_w666]

People don't want to sell and RS Fords have a cult following keeping prices high on any RS model. If they had made a fiesta RS or a Mondeo RS then prices may have sank a little more but it is (or at least was at the time) the spritual successor to the ES Cos.

[eybic]

I've never understood the whole RS obsession with people but it definitely exists, look at prices for escort cosworths for example

Edited by eybic on Tuesday 23 February 13:32

[briSk]

Chris_w666 said:

People don't want to sell and RS Fords have a cult following keeping prices high on any RS model. If they had made a fiesta RS or a Mondeo RS then prices may have sank a little more but it is (or at least was at the time) the spritual successor to the ES Cos.

..but the point is they do now appear to want to sell. certainly a lot more advertised than in the past. probably more than at any time since they wer sold new (and the speculators/short term holders/disenfranchised were re-selling them).

[Great Pretender]

Also, the FRS is a truly stonking little motorcar. I've yet to own a car that is as quick down a twisty and bumpy b-road; that includes the GT3.

Ignore all the guff about torque-steer, the mk I Focus RS is a proper drivers tool and worthy of the RS name. The mk II by comparison is far less special.

[Chris_w666]

briSk said:

Chris_w666 said:

People don't want to sell and RS Fords have a cult following keeping prices high on any RS model. If they had made a fiesta RS or a Mondeo RS then prices may have sank a little more but it is (or at least was at the time) the spritual successor to the ES Cos.

..but the point is they do now appear to want to sell. certainly a lot more advertised than in the past. probably more than at any time since they wer sold new (and the speculators/short term holders/disenfranchised were re-selling them).

I have no idea, I suppose it depends if they are selling for those prices. I drove one back to back with an ST170, the ST was slated for having not enough power but felt much better resolved. If they were down to £7-8k I would certainly consider one but a new ST is a much better car for daily use than a MK1 RS.

[sleep envy]

Great Pretender said:

Also, the FRS is a truly stonking little motorcar. I've yet to own a car that is as quick down a twisty and bumpy b-road; that includes the GT3.

Ignore all the guff about torque-steer, the mk I Focus RS is a proper drivers tool and worthy of the RS name. The mk II by comparison is far less special.

just imagine how good it would have been if the mkII were 4wd

[Podie]

sleep envy said:

Great Pretender said:

Also, the FRS is a truly stonking little motorcar. I've yet to own a car that is as quick down a twisty and bumpy b-road; that includes the GT3.

Ignore all the guff about torque-steer, the mk I Focus RS is a proper drivers tool and worthy of the RS name. The mk II by comparison is far less special.

just imagine how good it would have been if the mkII were 4wd

Slower and heavier...

[Chris_w666]

sleep envy said:

Great Pretender said:

Also, the FRS is a truly stonking little motorcar. I've yet to own a car that is as quick down a twisty and bumpy b-road; that includes the GT3.

Ignore all the guff about torque-steer, the mk I Focus RS is a proper drivers tool and worthy of the RS name. The mk II by comparison is far less special.

just imagine how good it would have been if the mkII were 4wd

[briSk]

sleep envy said:

Great Pretender said:

Also, the FRS is a truly stonking little motorcar. I've yet to own a car that is as quick down a twisty and bumpy b-road; that includes the GT3.

Ignore all the guff about torque-steer, the mk I Focus RS is a proper drivers tool and worthy of the RS name. The mk II by comparison is far less special.

just imagine how good it would have been if the mkII were 4wd

groan!



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i like the mk1RS - i am not saying it's crap i am just questioning the values.
it's more 'special' than an r26. but it's not really as good...

[sleep envy]

Podie said:

sleep envy said:

Great Pretender said:

Also, the FRS is a truly stonking little motorcar. I've yet to own a car that is as quick down a twisty and bumpy b-road; that includes the GT3.

Ignore all the guff about torque-steer, the mk I Focus RS is a proper drivers tool and worthy of the RS name. The mk II by comparison is far less special.

just imagine how good it would have been if the mkII were 4wd

Slower and heavier...

rubbish, it would have been able to put down all the power no problem

[Agoogy]

I think its a proper lesson in hot hatch exterior design...utterly gorgeous.
The performance is just about enough

The interior however is wk...mainly the dash...

It just makes me not want one enough to not get one... which is sad, because it looks so ruddy lovely.

[Dave_ST220]

& good grief i wonder where this one is going...........

[sleep envy]

briSk said:

i like the mk1RS - i am not saying it's crap i am just questioning the values.
it's more 'special' than an r26. but it's not really as good...

can you really compare the two considering the R26 came out 3/4 years after?

despite which, the RS halo does still hold cachet value to enthusiasts even if the wider public don't give a stuff

[Podie]

Dave_ST220 said:

& good grief i wonder where this one is going...........

[Johnnytheboy]

Perhaps the Mk2 RS is the reason lots of Mk1s are for sale...

If Mk1s are that good, perhaps the Mk2 is the first thing that's come along that's tickled their owners' fancy. Especially if they have a thing about the RS badge.

[briSk]

sleep envy said:

briSk said:

i like the mk1RS - i am not saying it's crap i am just questioning the values.
it's more 'special' than an r26. but it's not really as good...

can you really compare the two considering the R26 came out 3/4 years after?

despite which, the RS halo does still hold cachet value to enthusiasts even if the wider public don't give a stuff

i think so given that effectively they're both 'optimised' slipperydiff'd front drive family 3 dr hatches. i think they're near enough to use the megane to question the value of the RS.

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i really hope this stays as a 'debate'..

[sleep envy]

briSk said:

i think so given that effectively they're both 'optimised' slipperydiff'd front drive family 3 dr hatches. i think they're near enough to use the megane to question the value of the RS.

I may not have made myself entirely clear

I think the comparable would be the R26 F1 whch is pretty evenly matched on pricing

[briSk]

sleep envy said:

briSk said:

i think so given that effectively they're both 'optimised' slipperydiff'd front drive family 3 dr hatches. i think they're near enough to use the megane to question the value of the RS.

I may not have made myself entirely clear

I think the comparable would be the R26 F1 whch is pretty evenly matched on pricing

i was talking about the r26 f1 team alonso singaporegate too (so you thought i meant the r26.r - ?)

[sleep envy]

TBH I don't know much about the megan updates but having had a look again they do appear to be slightly cheaper year on year against the same RS