BF2 - Improvements
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Jasandjules

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72,588 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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So,BF2 Bad Company are looking to improve the game by getting info on what users want.

If enough people ask for something they might just do it, so what do people think could improve the game?

thetapeworm

13,807 posts

268 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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Having only played the one demo level on the XBox it's hard to know what the rest of the game will offer but I'd be happy with maps that don't funnel you in a set direction, something more like BF2 used to be where are various "flags" or missions each squad can carry out individually rather than it being quite linear.

More weapons is always nice too.

Jasandjules

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72,588 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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I am thinking flashbangs.... Especially when you have to disarm a bomb which the other team are covering. A flash in the door, then in and shoot...

identity_crisis

934 posts

245 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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Not having to put a thousand bullets into to someone to kill them. It main gripe with the game. other than that i love it.

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

222 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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thetapeworm said:
Having only played the one demo level on the XBox it's hard to know what the rest of the game will offer but I'd be happy with maps that don't funnel you in a set direction, something more like BF2 used to be where are various "flags" or missions each squad can carry out individually rather than it being quite linear.

More weapons is always nice too.
On BF Bad Company 1 they released a free DLC download a few months after the game was released with a more open map and the original BF Conquest game type.

Theres not much else I would do to change from what I have played from the demo, it just needs a little polishing.

S13_Alan

1,392 posts

272 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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identity_crisis said:
Not having to put a thousand bullets into to someone to kill them. It main gripe with the game. other than that i love it.
That's still my main problem too... I'm still finding I shoot people in the chest with a a good few shots at close range and it's not killing them. It's not only accuracy, I'm not missing these people, they just don't bloody die.

Cerberus90

1,553 posts

242 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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I've found this to be partly true, atleast on the xbox.

If you fire in bursts its much easier to kill.

After playing the BETA on the PC, its much, much, much harder.

However, damage balancing does seem a bit off. I mean, in BF2, take a hit from an MG or a tank, and you were dead. In BC2 you seem to be able to survive tanks. And the heavy MGs feel like pea shooters.

The large choice of weapons is nice though.

However, it feels very COD to me, its lots most of the battlefield feel I think, and its gone very console'y too.
I'm actually thinking of cancelling my pre-order.

Jasandjules

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72,588 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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Yes I did think it was strange to use a Heavy MG and still need to put 2-3 bursts into someone to kill them.

I was also thinking you need to be able to go prone.

I also noticed that if you get run over by a tank which isn't moving fast, you don't get hurt... But I do enjoy mowing people down with a quad bike.......

Also, I don't know if it's possible to mute your team mates who blether away....... That should ALWAYS be an option in on-line gaming ! I had one yesterday who must have smoked 60 a day to breathe that heavily BUT the little fecker didn't talk at all.. Just sounded like I was listening to a dirty call and I couldn't shut the fecker up.

identity_crisis

934 posts

245 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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im happy that you cant go prone. means you dont get snipers hiding in a bush somewhere.

ShadownINja

80,050 posts

311 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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Jasandjules said:
Also, I don't know if it's possible to mute your team mates who blether away....... That should ALWAYS be an option in on-line gaming ! I had one yesterday who must have smoked 60 a day to breathe that heavily BUT the little fecker didn't talk at all.. Just sounded like I was listening to a dirty call and I couldn't shut the fecker up.
Sorry, that was me, I just find big guns turn me on.

Maxf

8,444 posts

270 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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The biggest thing these need to do, IMO, is tweak the points system so that a win gives you more points. At the moment you get more points for tooling around killing folk than going for the objectives/win.

Aside from this, it's pretty good. The damage thing is a bit odd, and the guns almost feel more powerful if you use short bursts.

ShadownINja

80,050 posts

311 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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Maxf said:
Aside from this, it's pretty good. The damage thing is a bit odd, and the guns almost feel more powerful if you use short bursts.
Thought about why? wink

When I was in the SAS, we were taught to double tap and shoot and move. None of this running in, panicking and hosing bullets everywhere on fully auto like many gamers do. BTW did you know that SAS stands for Super Army Soldiers?

Edited by ShadownINja on Saturday 6th February 16:32

Jasandjules

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72,588 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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ShadownINja said:
Sorry, that was me, I just find big guns turn me on.
Well, I'm glad you hadn't eaten a curry as well or it'd be burp city.

I wonder if they could implement some form of anti-muppet system - i.e. you take off in the AH-64, go 40ft and then crash it into the ground.. Next time you try to fly it says you are too stupid to fly, letting a more able team mate take it instead....

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 6th February 2010
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I'm still trying to download my demo cry

...Mole...

2,780 posts

220 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Prone!!

Its been in every BF game so far(the proper ones anyway :P, not the console crap) and surely it cant take them much to implement Prone for the PC version of it.

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

222 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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...Mole... said:
Prone!!

Its been in every BF game so far(the proper ones anyway :P, not the console crap) and surely it cant take them much to implement Prone for the PC version of it.
You are an idiot fanboy, sorry but you are.

Cerberus90

1,553 posts

242 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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T89 Callan said:
...Mole... said:
Prone!!

Its been in every BF game so far(the proper ones anyway :P, not the console crap) and surely it cant take them much to implement Prone for the PC version of it.
You are an idiot fanboy, sorry but you are.
Hardly.

Battlefield started on the PC.

They should have develped for the PC first, and then modified for the consoles, but unfortunatly, most developers do things the other way around.

Prone was an excellent feature in BF2, it would be nice if they put it into BC2.

ShadownINja

80,050 posts

311 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Cerberus90 said:
T89 Callan said:
...Mole... said:
Prone!!

Its been in every BF game so far(the proper ones anyway :P, not the console crap) and surely it cant take them much to implement Prone for the PC version of it.
You are an idiot fanboy, sorry but you are.
Hardly.

Battlefield started on the PC.

They should have develped for the PC first, and then modified for the consoles, but unfortunatly, most developers do things the other way around.

Prone was an excellent feature in BF2, it would be nice if they put it into BC2.
What's wrong with the prone position and snipers? YOU DO REALISE YOU HAVE KNEES AND CAN LIE ON YOUR FRONT BEHIND A BUSH, RIGHT? Are half of you Stephen Hawking and just jealous that you can't get in a prone position to use a sniper rifle? nuts

Fabric 2.2

3,822 posts

221 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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Cerberus90 said:
Battlefield started on the PC.

They should have develped for the PC first, and then modified for the consoles, but unfortunatly, most developers do things the other way around.
yes The whole point of them releasing BFBC2 on the PC, as well as the console this time around, is to determine whether or not they can phase out console releases in the future. Which imo, is a great idea, as good as BFBC2 will be on the console, it won't be anything like the pc version, especially once people start adding in their own modded content, like the good old days of BF2.


Also, I'm not too worried about the lack of "improvements" in the current beta, considering it's OVER A YEAR OLD. It's the same build they demonstrated at E3 last year! From what I've been led to believe, the retail version will be very very different, and much more finalised (hopefully!). That said, it still runs better than the AVP demo..! smile

...Mole...

2,780 posts

220 months

Sunday 7th February 2010
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T89 Callan said:
...Mole... said:
Prone!!

Its been in every BF game so far(the proper ones anyway :P, not the console crap) and surely it cant take them much to implement Prone for the PC version of it.
You are an idiot fanboy, sorry but you are.
Why?, because i would like the ability to be able to go prone for cover/accuracy like ive been able to do in BF2, BF Vietnam and BF1942. It seems stupid to leave it out whatever version of the game it is, if i was being shot at i think i would rather lie down behind cover to avoid being killed. instead of just kneeling and getting shot in the head anyway.

I think Dice's comment on not including it was to avoid to much people being snipers, although that doent seem to have deterred people from what ive seen, with most games ending up with half the players using the recon class.