Mains powered track lighting
Mains powered track lighting
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M-J-B

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15,376 posts

273 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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I'm just about ready to look at lighting for new offices I'm currently refurbishing and wanted any help you guys can offer on mains powered track lighting - we require approx 50m in total in 17 off 3m lengths.

Are there any PH'ers that have any knowledge of these or are there any PH suppliers of such items?

Solitude

1,902 posts

198 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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I use a company on the park royal trading estate (london) called Genesis (they also trade under National lighting) and they carry a wide variety of track and subsequent fittings.
Just installed some at a clients new business in Acton (west london) on a return wall over the counter (he has a "high end" ironmongery shop opposite his timber yard.) and a load of recessed L.V. twin units. Looks nice !!
Look these guys up, as i find them excellent value. ..
P.S.not open on the sabbath (which in their case is saturday)
Hope this helps and good luck

M-J-B

Original Poster:

15,376 posts

273 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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Thanks guys - I was aware of the cat2 requirement and I'll call the co. above this week to discuss.

Thanks thumbup

Solitude

1,902 posts

198 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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As far as i'm aware, there is no such thing as cat2 track lighting, its generally in the diffusing of flourescent light.
Depends on what kind of office it is, cat2 is one way of reducing problems on computer screens, but even that requires planning properly.
Wall lighting is becoming quite popular again.(uplights)
People make a lot of money designing lighting for commerce on the grounds of health and safety.
Good luck

Smiler.

11,752 posts

253 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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As stated, you won't find a Cat 2 spotlight.

You will also need to consider part L2B of the building regs.

M-J-B

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Sunday 31st January 2010
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Smiler. said:
As stated, you won't find a Cat 2 spotlight.

You will also need to consider part L2B of the building regs.
Do I have to consider this even if the building doesn't need to conform to building regs?

Just to explain, the reason why it doesn't is simple - the council were aware of an old building I owned and were quite happy that I 'improved it' to include a new roof and essentially a full re-furb to include services etc. This was providing I didn't install 'permanent heating' (i.e. calor or gas, so we have oil radiators on the walls which are not deemed 'permanent')

Smiler.

11,752 posts

253 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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M-J-B said:
Smiler. said:
As stated, you won't find a Cat 2 spotlight.

You will also need to consider part L2B of the building regs.
Do I have to consider this even if the building doesn't need to conform to building regs?

Just to explain, the reason why it doesn't is simple - the council were aware of an old building I owned and were quite happy that I 'improved it' to include a new roof and essentially a full re-furb to include services etc. This was providing I didn't install 'permanent heating' (i.e. calor or gas, so we have oil radiators on the walls which are not deemed 'permanent')
Not sure about exemptions, not something I've come across before.

M-J-B

Original Poster:

15,376 posts

273 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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Smiler. said:
M-J-B said:
Smiler. said:
As stated, you won't find a Cat 2 spotlight.

You will also need to consider part L2B of the building regs.
Do I have to consider this even if the building doesn't need to conform to building regs?

Just to explain, the reason why it doesn't is simple - the council were aware of an old building I owned and were quite happy that I 'improved it' to include a new roof and essentially a full re-furb to include services etc. This was providing I didn't install 'permanent heating' (i.e. calor or gas, so we have oil radiators on the walls which are not deemed 'permanent')
Not sure about exemptions, not something I've come across before.
Even though the council are happy we are proceeding without 'official' building regs, I have ensured that the build is to building regs and am keen to keep lighting within that remit.

If I go down the track system I'll have to do my homework to ensure we are OK to go re regs.

I understand that we could if we wanted go for retrospective regs and we've taken pics at various stages to confirm the build - not worried about having to do that, just did it as an insurance policy wink

Ganglandboss

8,499 posts

226 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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Cat II went out yonks ago. The correct standard is LG7. It is not a legal requirement but there are requirements in the Display Screen Equipment regs and the Building regs (light levels, reflectance etc.) that will be met if you comply with LG7.

M-J-B

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15,376 posts

273 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Holy thread resurrection....

Just a quick note to praise my local council. I refurbished an office building I own and at the time was going to use it for my own business. I was told I didn't need building regs, but decided to build to building regs.

I took advice from various ph'ers re lighting etc and finished the project a few months ago.

I then decided to rent out the building and applied for building regs retrospectively, and bugger me, the chap walked in, took a look around, asked me to submit plans and a cheque and bingo!

For once, the local council have come up trumps and common sense prevails. I know i built it to regs, but they had a good look asked a few questions and could see that everything was fine. It could so easily have become a pita and a jobsworth project for someone.

Thanks ph'ers for the advice, and thanks local council for being sensible.