Could be a stupid question

[Alexdaredevilz]

I was at bell and covil earlier considering an Elise,
and ive seen alot of people convert there's to either a s/c ,turbo or engine transplant
so why is it i haven't come across one with a Volvo T5 engine? there cheap and powerful?
also with a s/c conversion, i also havent seen any procharger/vortech style s/c's there cheap and powerful.
sorry if this is a stupid question its just been at the back of my mind all day

Thanks Alex

Edited by Alexdaredevilz on Thursday 21st January 18:57

[kazste]

my guess (and thats all it is) is the size and weight of the engine, it may fit but sat all the way out back it may not do wonders for the handling. must be the same reason why the vw group 1.9 diesel has never been used, as think of the torque and MPG!

[doggydave]

kazste said:

my guess (and thats all it is) is the size and weight of the engine, it may fit but sat all the way out back it may not do wonders for the handling. must be the same reason why the vw group 1.9 diesel has never been used, as think of the torque and MPG!

We run a Skoda Fabia VRS as our main car with the 130 bhp vw diesel engine. I've always wondered what the torque would be like in an Elise, especially with the 170 bhp ecu upgrade. And probably nearer to 70 mpg.

[kazste]

My thinking exactly I used to run an Ibiza cupradiesel which had been revo'd in a straight line I really do think the cupra was just as quick. Which makes me think of what that engine in new car would be like. But guessing it would ruin the handlng due to weight issues

[Scuffers]

T5 engine has 5 cyls in a line, how do you propose to fit that in?

As for a dismal, what the hell would you put a less powerful engine in the Elise? torque means nothing without RPM's to go with it, power is were it's at...

[rdodger]

Scuffers said:

T5 engine has 5 cyls in a line, how do you propose to fit that in?

As for a dismal, what the hell would you put a less powerful engine in the Elise? torque means nothing without RPM's to go with it, power is were it's at...

Use a T4?

[kazste]

Scuffers said:

T5 engine has 5 cyls in a line, how do you propose to fit that in?

As for a dismal, what the hell would you put a less powerful engine in the Elise? torque means nothing without RPM's to go with it, power is were it's at...

not at all less powerfull, my elise s has 139bhp, my cupra standard has 160bhp and revo'd had 208.
the rasoning for me would be that the elise is my everyday car and is used on the motorway for 20 mile runs daily. i get around 40mpg from it, i used to get around 48 mpg from the cupra, so if the elise would give around 54 mpg plus still be fun and not hurt handling it would be worth it.

[Scuffers]

kazste said:

Scuffers said:

T5 engine has 5 cyls in a line, how do you propose to fit that in?

As for a dismal, what the hell would you put a less powerful engine in the Elise? torque means nothing without RPM's to go with it, power is were it's at...

not at all less powerfull, my elise s has 139bhp, my cupra standard has 160bhp and revo'd had 208.
the rasoning for me would be that the elise is my everyday car and is used on the motorway for 20 mile runs daily. i get around 40mpg from it, i used to get around 48 mpg from the cupra, so if the elise would give around 54 mpg plus still be fun and not hurt handling it would be worth it.

so, let me get this right

you want to add a st load of weight, complexity, etc to a lightweight sports car for the same of a couple of mpg?

it's a sportscar man, not a econosadbox!


that aside, a decent efficient petrol engine will do as well MPG with some real performance.

[kazste]

No I do not want to add the weight. I believe I have already pointed out that it will ruin the handling. I'm just saying that it is a shame it can't be used due to this reason as otherwise the charachteristics of the engine IMO would suit the car

[johnymac]

Kazsti - whether you realise it or not, by owning an Elise you have one of the best real world sports cars on the planet.
It may not be the fastest - but in all other respects it is right up there with the worlds best sporting cars.
Adding a Diesel engine could give you lots more mpg and more torque - that much is pretty obvious, however by doing so you would destroy the whole feel of the car. It needs a free revving engine.
You would have a world class sports car that didn't feel like a sports car at all.
A better bet would be buying or creating a well handling Diesel hatchback.

I think that transplanting an engine into an Elise should only be done to create more performance!

That,s my opinion for what it's worth.

[Scuffers]

kazste said:

No I do not want to add the weight. I believe I have already pointed out that it will ruin the handling. I'm just saying that it is a shame it can't be used due to this reason as otherwise the charachteristics of the engine IMO would suit the car

#
sorry,

if you trying to tell us that a VAG Tdi engine has the right characteristics for a sportscar, you really need to review that.

good as the TDi's are, they have way more inertia, slower throttle response, limited rev range, etc,
you think this is suited to a sportscar?

[doggydave]

No one is saying that the VAG TDI engine is suitable for a sports car, it is just an interesting thought with regard to the light weight of the Lotus, the low down torque and the MPG. Some of us like to think out of the box once in a while. It helps when things are quiet as the obviously are. Some people are just too precious at times with regards to their brand of car.

[Alexdaredevilz]

Not sure how the diesel argument started, seems like a fairly good idea but not for me,

Any one have any info on bolting a centrifugal S/C on a Lotus Elise?

Also the T5 engine is 300+ bhp for not alot more weight, im sure if you did the bhp:ton it would be worth it,
I just wanted to know why people haven't done it, and if it would be possible, if its to wide, than that's my question answered,

Thanks

Alex

Edited by Alexdaredevilz on Thursday 21st January 20:07

[fatwomble]

Alexdaredevilz said:

Not sure how the diesel argument started, seems like a fairly good idea but not for me,

Any one have any info on bolting a centrifugal S/C on a Lotus Elise?

Also the T5 engine is 300+ bhp for not alot more weight, im sure if you did the bhp:ton it would be worth it,
I just wanted to know why people haven't done it, and if it would be possible, if its to wide, than that's my question answered,

Thanks

Alex

Edited by Alexdaredevilz on Thursday 21st January 20:07

I assumed that's what scuffers meant

[Scuffers]

Alexdaredevilz said:

Not sure how the diesel argument started, seems like a fairly good idea but not for me,

Any one have any info on bolting a centrifugal S/C on a Lotus Elise?

Also the T5 engine is 300+ bhp for not alot more weight, im sure if you did the bhp:ton it would be worth it,
I just wanted to know why people haven't done it, and if it would be possible, if its to wide, than that's my question answered,

Thanks

Alex

FFS

will you stop rabbiting on about the T5 engine? have you ever seen one? how big it is?

and yes, peope have bolted centrifugal S/C to Elises for years, turbo technics were one of the first over 10 years ago.

[Alexdaredevilz]

Scuffers said:

Alexdaredevilz said:

Not sure how the diesel argument started, seems like a fairly good idea but not for me,

Any one have any info on bolting a centrifugal S/C on a Lotus Elise?

Also the T5 engine is 300+ bhp for not alot more weight, im sure if you did the bhp:ton it would be worth it,
I just wanted to know why people haven't done it, and if it would be possible, if its to wide, than that's my question answered,

Thanks

Alex

FFS

will you stop rabbiting on about the T5 engine? have you ever seen one? how big it is?

and yes, peope have bolted centrifugal S/C to Elises for years, turbo technics were one of the first over 10 years ago.

Yes i owned a C70 T5, and NO i dont own a Elise thats why im asking! i dont know how much room is available,

Could you link me some build/info pages on the centrifugal s/c so i can see please?

Thanks
Alex

[Scuffers]

Alexdaredevilz said:

Scuffers said:

Alexdaredevilz said:

Not sure how the diesel argument started, seems like a fairly good idea but not for me,

Any one have any info on bolting a centrifugal S/C on a Lotus Elise?

Also the T5 engine is 300+ bhp for not alot more weight, im sure if you did the bhp:ton it would be worth it,
I just wanted to know why people haven't done it, and if it would be possible, if its to wide, than that's my question answered,

Thanks

Alex

FFS

will you stop rabbiting on about the T5 engine? have you ever seen one? how big it is?

and yes, peope have bolted centrifugal S/C to Elises for years, turbo technics were one of the first over 10 years ago.

Yes i owned a C70 T5, and NO i dont own a Elise thats why im asking! i dont know how much room is available,

Could you link me some build/info pages on the centrifugal s/c so i can see please?

Thanks
Alex

http://www.google.co.uk/

[Alexdaredevilz]

Did you not get laid last night or some thing?

[fatwomble]

Alexdaredevilz said:

Did you not get laid last night or some thing?

this is normal for scuffers

Edit - for clarity I didn't mean it is normal for scuffers not to get laid, I have no idea about scuffers sex life, nor do I have any real desire to find out.

Edited by fatwomble on Thursday 21st January 21:47

[Scuffers]

for the record, I am just bored with people coming on here month after month asking the very same questions that have been asked 1,000,000 times before, then when you give them an answer, ignore it and carry on....

does the search function not work for you?