evo Veyrog TT - 24k so far!
Discussion
So, having spent 24k on an old TT, they've got 309bhp, new suspension, stripped it out a bit and added track-spec tyres along with all the repair work that was needed on a fked old audi.
24k seems a lot of money when they could have had an exige which would be just as practical, quicker on track (I bet) and will have considerably better residual value.
In fact, I'd have bought one of these:
http://mobile.pistonheads.com/sales/1335983.htm
And spend 10k on a supercharger and further fettling.
And evo want to get it to 500bhp, what's that going to cost?! Another 10k maybe?
So maybe a 35k 500bhp 4wd car all of a sudden doesn't look like such poor value...
Still, 35k is a serious chunk of cash. 996gt3 money in fact. Or tuned skyline r34 money. Or a Noble? I bet you could build a [I]seriously[/] fast murtaya for that money...
What sayeth PH?
24k seems a lot of money when they could have had an exige which would be just as practical, quicker on track (I bet) and will have considerably better residual value.
In fact, I'd have bought one of these:
http://mobile.pistonheads.com/sales/1335983.htm
And spend 10k on a supercharger and further fettling.
And evo want to get it to 500bhp, what's that going to cost?! Another 10k maybe?
So maybe a 35k 500bhp 4wd car all of a sudden doesn't look like such poor value...
Still, 35k is a serious chunk of cash. 996gt3 money in fact. Or tuned skyline r34 money. Or a Noble? I bet you could build a [I]seriously[/] fast murtaya for that money...
What sayeth PH?
Let's see what it does at Bedford Autodrome. But indeed - they'd have to lob about 10 seconds of the 1.35.something they recorded before they started to make it seem worthwhile in view of what you could have for that sort of money...
BTW Did Bovingdon ever get near the 8 minutes mark at the Ring with his M3 project?
BTW Did Bovingdon ever get near the 8 minutes mark at the Ring with his M3 project?
Edited by 900T-R on Monday 4th January 18:42
vz-r_dave said:
I say its a project and I dont think that they are factoring comparing the money spent. Ofcourse it would be easier to go and buy the car in the link but surely that defies the point?
Agree to a point, but it is worse surely? You don't get back modifications money and at the end of the day, for most of us, resale has to be taken into account - as does prohibitive insurance for heavily modified cars.So they bought a TT for £6k or so, and have spend nigh on £20k modding it. I doubt you'd get more than £8-£10k selling it unless you found a complete mug, so it's a pretty horrific way to gain performance when 25k gets you some serious used cars with a fraction of the miles under their belts and some manufacturers warranty: Cayman S, Exige S, Caterham, etc....
vz-r_dave said:
I say its a project and I dont think that they are factoring comparing the money spent. Ofcourse it would be easier to go and buy the car in the link but surely that defies the point?
Maybe, but given they started with a TT I can't see any other sort of ROI other than it being bl00dy quick. I feel they would benefit from a good project manager at Evo - all of their project cars have a habit of getting a bit out of hand in terms of finances and deadlines, and I think none have quite realised what they set out to do.
Great Pretender said:
vz-r_dave said:
I say its a project and I dont think that they are factoring comparing the money spent. Ofcourse it would be easier to go and buy the car in the link but surely that defies the point?
Not at 24 grand it doesn't £24k of who's money? I imagine that for the odd mention or two (i.e. every second word), the tuning house carrying the work may be willing to exchange some readies or at least part-fund the build
Still, it's mad as pink bat-st. Who on this earth would decide to spend an average man's annual salary on an old, fked TT?
The Lotus XI project was far more interesting; as was the Project 8 Minutes, albeit doomed from the start.
Great Pretender said:
Actually...
£24k of who's money? I imagine that for the odd mention or two (i.e. every second word), the tuning house carrying the work may be willing to exchange some readies or at least part-fund the build
The long list of stickers down the side and the ruddy great autograph logo on the sill would seem to confirm that - but that isnt the point, that wouldnt happen for the rest of us.£24k of who's money? I imagine that for the odd mention or two (i.e. every second word), the tuning house carrying the work may be willing to exchange some readies or at least part-fund the build
Edited by edo on Monday 4th January 18:57
I'm not sure tuning a TT to above 300bhp is a sensible choice. Once you go above basic remaping on the K04 turbo you are then going to have to go bigger turbo, different exhaust manifold, full new exhaust including race cats, bigger intercooler with new pipework, new mappable ecu, new injectors and a higher flowing fuel pump. This would probably be at least £5k in parts, excluding labour and would maybe get you 350bhp. And you haven't even started looking at the brakes, suspension and 4wd system.
BlueMR2 said:
Could have had a nice S Class V12 with twice the power and built yourself a 7esque car as well for that money.
Indeed, but a better comparison would have been to try and match the Veyron's lap time in something cheap and lightweight like a fettled Lotus Elise or something.That's far more relevant and interesting.
Great Pretender said:
Great Pretender said:
vz-r_dave said:
I say its a project and I dont think that they are factoring comparing the money spent. Ofcourse it would be easier to go and buy the car in the link but surely that defies the point?
Not at 24 grand it doesn't £24k of who's money? I imagine that for the odd mention or two (i.e. every second word), the tuning house carrying the work may be willing to exchange some readies or at least part-fund the build
Still, it's mad as pink bat-st. Who on this earth would decide to spend an average man's annual salary on an old, fked TT?
The Lotus XI project was far more interesting; as was the Project 8 Minutes, albeit doomed from the start.
I agree, it's all a bit silly. Not what I would have spent £24 doing. I'd probably just buy a caterfield and build that, although I guess that wouldn't be too interesting for most readers, I'd like to see it though.
I agree that the XI project was very interesting and, funnily.enough, my first ever post on ph was asking how other people would have spent 15k on a car to bust an 8min lap of the 'ring.
So... 24k spent so far, anyone know what's likely to be involved to get it to 500? And what's it gonna cost?
So... 24k spent so far, anyone know what's likely to be involved to get it to 500? And what's it gonna cost?
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