Showroom Shine (cleaning product)
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Just seen this advertised on one of those shopping channels.
Waterless cleaning system where one apparently just sprays directly onto the body and wipes off.
Does this stuff work? (Looks like a load of b
ks to me - demonstrations, although impressive look a little on the set up side).
Appears very much like a standard detailer spray? (Which I'd use for dust/minor dirt but never for an actual clean).
Waterless cleaning system where one apparently just sprays directly onto the body and wipes off.
Does this stuff work? (Looks like a load of b
ks to me - demonstrations, although impressive look a little on the set up side).Appears very much like a standard detailer spray? (Which I'd use for dust/minor dirt but never for an actual clean).
g3org3y said:
Appears very much like a standard detailer spray? (Which I'd use for dust/minor dirt but never for an actual clean).
spot on.Could use it to clean a whole car but you would just scrub all of the dirt in and f
k up the paintwork. It might be alright for a quick detailer or a good going round on a clean car but there are probably better products out there.Its like getting a muddy car and going straight in with the polish. It will come out shiny but covered in scratches and swirls.
My dad bought some of this and loves it.
When he 1st got it he did as they did on the tv and wiped all the crap off the car with it, the car looked great until I pointed out all the swirl marks in the paintwork. He now washes it before using it just like any other spray wax.
It seems to be ok and the car looks good after he's used it, I'm not sure how well it beads up but I'm still sticking to the Dodo Juice for now.
When he 1st got it he did as they did on the tv and wiped all the crap off the car with it, the car looked great until I pointed out all the swirl marks in the paintwork. He now washes it before using it just like any other spray wax.
It seems to be ok and the car looks good after he's used it, I'm not sure how well it beads up but I'm still sticking to the Dodo Juice for now.
I bought some last year just to try it. It's pretty amazing stuff, so I bought a truck load from Ideal world or whatever that channel on the telly is called. It's also exceptionaly good for cleaning LCD TVs. It's brilliant in this cacky weather because you can use it on wet cars as well as dry ones, it does a reall nice job and you don't freeze your ass off with buckets and sponges. The extra bonus is that you can clean your car when all the outside taps are frozen. I didn't have any issues with scratching or swirling but when I use it I wait a a minute or 2 after spraying it on before I start with the cloths. Most people I speak to about it are a bit pussy about it, and start banging on about how it "must just be like a grinding paste" and it "must" scratch the paintwork. I would get any really claggy st off the car before i used it but for most jobs it's been fine to just use it straight away.
t off the car before i used it but for most jobs it's been fine to just use it straight away.Edited by Syndrome on Saturday 26th December 11:31
As Dodo Juice say in there FAQ, "If there was a product that cleaned, polished and waxed in one step, we would already sell it". And don't think am biased. I don't use Dodo Juice.
Fact is that if this product is so amazing, why is it that the only place they can flog it is to numpties who watch the home shopping channels?
Fact is that if this product is so amazing, why is it that the only place they can flog it is to numpties who watch the home shopping channels?
Deluded said:
Fact is that if this product is so amazing, why is it that the only place they can flog it is to numpties who watch the home shopping channels?
They're starting to sell loads of it to some BMW and Merc frachises now as well. It's just a case of getting people to trust it.Waterless washes have been around for years, and are just another form of quick detailing spray. If your car is dusty they work wonders, but they will NOT clean motorway dirt, heavy grime, mud etc half as well as a traditional snowfoam, two bucket wash along with a mitt or real wool sea sponge.
The wash is only as good as the surface beneath and if a car is waxed often dirt will not stick to the surface.
Quite simply don't waste your money unless you just wish to damage your paint and do a poor detail.
The wash is only as good as the surface beneath and if a car is waxed often dirt will not stick to the surface.
Quite simply don't waste your money unless you just wish to damage your paint and do a poor detail.
Syndrome said:
I bought some last year just to try it. It's pretty amazing stuff, so I bought a truck load from Ideal world or whatever that channel on the telly is called. It's also exceptionaly good for cleaning LCD TVs. It's brilliant in this cacky weather because you can use it on wet cars as well as dry ones, it does a reall nice job and you don't freeze your ass off with buckets and sponges. The extra bonus is that you can clean your car when all the outside taps are frozen. I didn't have any issues with scratching or swirling but when I use it I wait a a minute or 2 after spraying it on before I start with the cloths. Most people I speak to about it are a bit pussy about it, and start banging on about how it "must just be like a grinding paste" and it "must" scratch the paintwork. I would get any really claggy st off the car before i used it but for most jobs it's been fine to just use it straight away.
Swirl hell will ensue. Ignore this nonsense.t off the car before i used it but for most jobs it's been fine to just use it straight away.Edited by Syndrome on Saturday 26th December 11:31
I have had some for a while, I never fell for the no need to wash pitch , I do as follows
Wash car with a weak solution of quality car wash in warm water
While the car is still wet I get a damp micro fibre cloth and apply the spray and shine to the cloth first and then spread that onto each panel. I dont spray directly onto the car as the fine mist gets into places like the grill lattice , panel gaps etc which you can't really get at to buff off.
By the time I have done every panel on the car , where I started has already dried to a haze.
I then get my drying towel ( dedicated car one , big fluffy thing , from on line detailing shop) and dry / buff the car.
No swirls , lovely shiney finish . Extremely smooth to touch paint finish.
Every third wash or so I will put the microfibre cloths and drying towel into the washing machine , don't use fabric conditioner though.
Wash car with a weak solution of quality car wash in warm water
While the car is still wet I get a damp micro fibre cloth and apply the spray and shine to the cloth first and then spread that onto each panel. I dont spray directly onto the car as the fine mist gets into places like the grill lattice , panel gaps etc which you can't really get at to buff off.
By the time I have done every panel on the car , where I started has already dried to a haze.
I then get my drying towel ( dedicated car one , big fluffy thing , from on line detailing shop) and dry / buff the car.
No swirls , lovely shiney finish . Extremely smooth to touch paint finish.
Every third wash or so I will put the microfibre cloths and drying towel into the washing machine , don't use fabric conditioner though.
Used properly this stuff works amazingly well. I use it a lot on all our cars and have had excellent results. The trick is to use it cautiously, let the stuff soak a little first and then wipe it off carefully before polishing.
People don't buy it because they don't trust the idea of it; but watching a demonstration changes peoples minds.
BTW Once every 6 - 12 months I do also do the full monty, of clay bar, swirl remover, cleanser, polish, wax etc.
People don't buy it because they don't trust the idea of it; but watching a demonstration changes peoples minds.
BTW Once every 6 - 12 months I do also do the full monty, of clay bar, swirl remover, cleanser, polish, wax etc.
Yeah I watched this last night and me and a mate were discussing who on earth would buy this crap.
Things I noticed,
The freshly corrected or detailed panels,
The red door with the all the "dirt" on it, looked like the panel was wet someone rubbed AGSRP into it, then washed it down leaving a white polish residue, so the waterless system they were using, was buffing off polish.
The black door was just dried on dirty water
The focus they did outside with no artificial lighting to show before and after scratches it has put into the paint work
Enamel paint doesn't stick to st, thats why nobody uses it, it especially wont stick to anything that has
A. A soapy coating underneath it
B. Has no primer
C. Hasn't been heat treated
D. Hasn't been prepped
Not only that its a fking rip off, £25 for 10 washes, thats £2.50 a wash, I have 2 hard waxes that I have had for 2 years now that cost around the same and haven't reached the bottom of the tub in anyway shape or form, or how it "repels dirt" nothing repels dirt, its just clean and the water that comes with said dirt takes the dirt off the car with it, it also doesn't keep the car cleaner for longer thats utter tripe, its just enhanced the shine to make it look cleaner for longer, placebo effect.
On top of that they used buzz words like "surfactant" and how it holds the dirt blah blah, sorry even from the close up I can see it doesn't do st, what you need is good old fashioned bubbles to hold the dirt in suspension not a cream that breaks down as you use it.
What your best of doing is spending £30 in Halfords on a bucket and an AutoGlym pack which I can say will last more than 10 washes, tis utter crap, just advertised very well.
Things I noticed,
The freshly corrected or detailed panels,
The red door with the all the "dirt" on it, looked like the panel was wet someone rubbed AGSRP into it, then washed it down leaving a white polish residue, so the waterless system they were using, was buffing off polish.
The black door was just dried on dirty water
The focus they did outside with no artificial lighting to show before and after scratches it has put into the paint work
Enamel paint doesn't stick to s
t, thats why nobody uses it, it especially wont stick to anything that hasA. A soapy coating underneath it
B. Has no primer
C. Hasn't been heat treated
D. Hasn't been prepped
Not only that its a f
king rip off, £25 for 10 washes, thats £2.50 a wash, I have 2 hard waxes that I have had for 2 years now that cost around the same and haven't reached the bottom of the tub in anyway shape or form, or how it "repels dirt" nothing repels dirt, its just clean and the water that comes with said dirt takes the dirt off the car with it, it also doesn't keep the car cleaner for longer thats utter tripe, its just enhanced the shine to make it look cleaner for longer, placebo effect.On top of that they used buzz words like "surfactant" and how it holds the dirt blah blah, sorry even from the close up I can see it doesn't do s
t, what you need is good old fashioned bubbles to hold the dirt in suspension not a cream that breaks down as you use it.What your best of doing is spending £30 in Halfords on a bucket and an AutoGlym pack which I can say will last more than 10 washes, tis utter crap, just advertised very well.
Syndrome said:
I bought some last year just to try it. It's pretty amazing stuff, so I bought a truck load from Ideal world or whatever that channel on the telly is called. It's also exceptionaly good for cleaning LCD TVs. It's brilliant in this cacky weather because you can use it on wet cars as well as dry ones, it does a reall nice job and you don't freeze your ass off with buckets and sponges. The extra bonus is that you can clean your car when all the outside taps are frozen. I didn't have any issues with scratching or swirling but when I use it I wait a a minute or 2 after spraying it on before I start with the cloths. Most people I speak to about it are a bit pussy about it, and start banging on about how it "must just be like a grinding paste" and it "must" scratch the paintwork. I would get any really claggy st off the car before i used it but for most jobs it's been fine to just use it straight away.
Do you have shares in this product or something? How is this product any different than putting soapy water into a spray bottle and using trhat instead? t off the car before i used it but for most jobs it's been fine to just use it straight away.Edited by Syndrome on Saturday 26th December 11:31
AndyKH said:
Do you have shares in this product or something? How is this product any different than putting soapy water into a spray bottle and using trhat instead?
No I've got no vested interests at all. I'm just impressed from a technical point of view as I've got a chemical engineering background. It's a very clever use of Surfactant technology. I'll try and put it in laymans terms. Essentialy it uses what's called a surfactant (a kind of clever soap) to lift the dirt then encapsulate it in a bubble which has the dirt surrounded by a soapy layer. The spray is an emulsion of surfactant and wax, (the exact ratio of surfactant to wax isn't stated, but is the secret), and this is where it differs to a detailer spray or "soap in a spray bottle. When you wipe away the dirt you leave a layer of wax. I've seen surfactants used for years in the North Sea oil fields to try and keep any minor spills in check, This is just a clever application of this technology, and as I said I've never had any issues using it. As far as I know no one is forcing anyone to use it, I just think it's pretty good.Edited by Syndrome on Monday 28th December 12:32
Edited by Syndrome on Monday 28th December 12:33
Syndrome said:
It's a very clever use of Surfactant technology.
That's the sticking point I imagine - for most people, the idea of potentially rubbing grime into the paint is contrary to everything you would normally do.http://www.optimumcarcare.com/onrwns.htm
However, I wouldn't touch anything from a shopping channel on principle.
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