Time for a snap election?
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...
The Labour party is gearing up for an early general election as a new Sunday Times poll reveals a narrowing of the Conservative lead.
Party chiefs have ordered staff to be ready to fight an election any time from the new year amid growing Labour optimism that a Conservative victory can be averted.
Gordon Brown last week addressed a private “key seats” meeting, when candidates were told to have their campaign literature ready for publication by the end of next month.
The party’s general secretary, Ray Collins, is understood to have told No 10: “We will be ready whenever you decide to go.”
Labour headquarters are accelerating the process of selecting parliamentary candidates, with bosses set to take new powers in the new year to parachute party loyalists into winnable seats.
The Labour party is gearing up for an early general election as a new Sunday Times poll reveals a narrowing of the Conservative lead.
Party chiefs have ordered staff to be ready to fight an election any time from the new year amid growing Labour optimism that a Conservative victory can be averted.
Gordon Brown last week addressed a private “key seats” meeting, when candidates were told to have their campaign literature ready for publication by the end of next month.
The party’s general secretary, Ray Collins, is understood to have told No 10: “We will be ready whenever you decide to go.”
Labour headquarters are accelerating the process of selecting parliamentary candidates, with bosses set to take new powers in the new year to parachute party loyalists into winnable seats.
Puggit said:
The Labour party is gearing up for an early general election as a new Sunday Times poll reveals a narrowing of the Conservative lead.
No, an 'early' general election would have been when Winky assumed power.He bottled that one.
I suspect that he may march the Labour Party up to the top of the election readiness hill again, only to have another poll piss on his chips, and march them back down again.
And when he was up, he was a
...and when he was down, he was a , and when only half way up, he was even more of a than ever.Edited by eharding on Saturday 12th December 23:31
anonymous said:
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I hope labour get in and a year or two down the line this country finally pulls its collective thumb out its collective ass and goes a bit french and we march on parliament and kill the whole fking lot of them.I refuse to vote for Tony Blair Mk2 no way am i voting for that git
I will vote for who i think would best represent my ideals and when tony blair mk2 wearing a red tie gets in and you tory fan boys realise the man is an arse i can proudly say i did't vote for that git.
A times reader made an interesting point regarding this article.
Basically, he said that Labour would be foolish to call an election before the clocks change, as their welfare clients would be unlikely to vote in the dark. I think he's right. In fact, I don't think they'll vote in significant numbers anyway. The underclass in this country just don't care about anything.
Labour are terrified of having to produce another financial report; I'm convinced the election will come before we find out what a truly awful mess they have got us in.
Personally, I don't think it matters either way.
I am of the opinion that there will be a Tory landslide. Things can only get worse for the Uk between now and an election.
I do wish Cameron would pledge not to change Inheritance tax though till the country's finances were sorted. The plan on this tax is simply not worth the mileage it gives to Labour. It seems to me that IT is the only stick they have to beat DC with right now. Remove that and they are left to fight on their own record.
I am disheartened at those who intend to vote UKIP. Principles are great in theory. Sadly, politics is a "reality" sport. There are only 2 choices come the next GE, irrespective of whether one thinks that right or wrong, fair or unjust. A vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour. We may not like that, but it is true.
No principle is worth the risk of another term of Winky. Vote with your heads, guys, not your hearts. Afterall, the policies of UKIP are significantly more likely to occur under a Tory government than a Labour one. If you truly believe in the UKIP stance, a Tory government has to be preferable.
I am in agreement with just about everyone regarding Dave upping his game. Hopefully, this will happen. I am confident that he will. Like most, I am concerned about Osbourne. He just *looks* out of his depth, somehow. I suspect he will take a backseat in any campaign, with Hague, Kenny and Boris taking the lead roles.
The whole "immigrants vote labour" stance is also wrong imho. Let's face it, most of the folks who are prepared to travel half way round the world, or even half way across Europe are those with get up and go. The middle classes of their homeland. If they vote at all, I trust them to have the intelligence to see where things are headed and cast their ballots accordingly.
It is only natural to fear another term of Labour to the point where we begin to question whether the alternative really has it in them to win. It is our duty, as the nation's intelligencia, to keep these doubts inside our heads and fight fire with fire. I for one will not openly express my doubts about the Tory high command to anybody other than another person whose vote I know will be blue.
We must do whatever it takes to rid ourselves of New Labour. Gaining Power is all that matters at this stage. I love my country and if a slight leap of faith is required, at this time of grave national danger, I will take it.
Basically, he said that Labour would be foolish to call an election before the clocks change, as their welfare clients would be unlikely to vote in the dark. I think he's right. In fact, I don't think they'll vote in significant numbers anyway. The underclass in this country just don't care about anything.
Labour are terrified of having to produce another financial report; I'm convinced the election will come before we find out what a truly awful mess they have got us in.
Personally, I don't think it matters either way.
I am of the opinion that there will be a Tory landslide. Things can only get worse for the Uk between now and an election.
I do wish Cameron would pledge not to change Inheritance tax though till the country's finances were sorted. The plan on this tax is simply not worth the mileage it gives to Labour. It seems to me that IT is the only stick they have to beat DC with right now. Remove that and they are left to fight on their own record.
I am disheartened at those who intend to vote UKIP. Principles are great in theory. Sadly, politics is a "reality" sport. There are only 2 choices come the next GE, irrespective of whether one thinks that right or wrong, fair or unjust. A vote for UKIP is a vote for Labour. We may not like that, but it is true.
No principle is worth the risk of another term of Winky. Vote with your heads, guys, not your hearts. Afterall, the policies of UKIP are significantly more likely to occur under a Tory government than a Labour one. If you truly believe in the UKIP stance, a Tory government has to be preferable.
I am in agreement with just about everyone regarding Dave upping his game. Hopefully, this will happen. I am confident that he will. Like most, I am concerned about Osbourne. He just *looks* out of his depth, somehow. I suspect he will take a backseat in any campaign, with Hague, Kenny and Boris taking the lead roles.
The whole "immigrants vote labour" stance is also wrong imho. Let's face it, most of the folks who are prepared to travel half way round the world, or even half way across Europe are those with get up and go. The middle classes of their homeland. If they vote at all, I trust them to have the intelligence to see where things are headed and cast their ballots accordingly.
It is only natural to fear another term of Labour to the point where we begin to question whether the alternative really has it in them to win. It is our duty, as the nation's intelligencia, to keep these doubts inside our heads and fight fire with fire. I for one will not openly express my doubts about the Tory high command to anybody other than another person whose vote I know will be blue.
We must do whatever it takes to rid ourselves of New Labour. Gaining Power is all that matters at this stage. I love my country and if a slight leap of faith is required, at this time of grave national danger, I will take it.
thinfourth2 said:
I will vote for who i think would best represent my ideals and when tony blair mk2 wearing a red tie gets in and you tory fan boys realise the man is an arse i can proudly say i did't vote for that git.
Will you feel so proud if Labour win by a whisker? Serious question....
Martial Arts Man said:
thinfourth2 said:
I will vote for who i think would best represent my ideals and when tony blair mk2 wearing a red tie gets in and you tory fan boys realise the man is an arse i can proudly say i did't vote for that git.
Will you feel so proud if Labour win by a whisker? Serious question....
kers who don't represent my views and hold me in utter contempt as a voter so i will be utterly pissed off when they win.So i can still say i didn't vote for those w
kersThat applies to ALL main parties
Mr Dave said:
Im going to vote Labour.
They **** the bed, let them sleep in it. All this reckless spending lately has been a scorched earth policy and I Don't want to allow them to blame the next few years on the Tories.
We have to get them out to ensure that the UL doesn't become a third world country.They **** the bed, let them sleep in it. All this reckless spending lately has been a scorched earth policy and I Don't want to allow them to blame the next few years on the Tories.
Whilst I would prefer to vote UKIP for the sensibility of it, sadly I think in order to ensure Winky doesn't get in I'm going to have to vote for the bluey/green party. And then hope we can bully them into dropping this AGW s***e.
odyssey2200 said:
Then you consign us to 4 more years of the same st, just a different coloured st.
It is vitally important that the Tories win the next election.t, just a different coloured st.We stand at a cross roads, one road leads to our destruction as a first world economy, the other to at least a chance of turning the tide.
Yes the Tories are nearly as keen on MMGW as Labour. But this is not a single issue election and if Labour get back in once more it will be the end.
How can the party of the public sector unions and the client state do what is needed?
I don't think an early election is likely, winky won't call one until he is sure it will be a win for him or he runs out of time.
To call one and get a non working majority would result in a 2nd election fairly soon, and labour can't afford one election, let alone two.
He'll hang on to the last possible moment, and misjudge the timing, as usual.
To call one and get a non working majority would result in a 2nd election fairly soon, and labour can't afford one election, let alone two.
He'll hang on to the last possible moment, and misjudge the timing, as usual.
I read an article which suggested that one of the ways that Gordon Brown/Labour could combat the Tory threat is by adopting the Tony Blair approach of essentially nicking all of their good policies - could this be one of the reasons that hard policy facts are thin on the ground?
Barack Obama got enough stick for letting the Taliban know the date America was planning on closing the door as they left as apparently you should keep your enemy in the dark as to your plans...
Barack Obama got enough stick for letting the Taliban know the date America was planning on closing the door as they left as apparently you should keep your enemy in the dark as to your plans...
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