Rompuy sets out his ideas for EU taxation already!
Rompuy sets out his ideas for EU taxation already!
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AndrewW-G

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247 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Chalk another win up for the sceptics, we’ve had an EU chairman / president for less than a week and already he’s campaigning for increased taxation to fund the EU......................................a packet of Jaffa cakes to the person who can convince me this is a good idea biggrin


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/e...

NismoGT

1,634 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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hurl

AndrewW-G

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11,968 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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NismoGT said:
hurl
Ok I'll up the prize to a packet of hob nobs or a small bar of Green & Blacks wink

NismoGT

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220 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
NismoGT said:
hurl
Ok I'll up the prize to a packet of hob nobs or a small bar of Green & Blacks wink
That was directed at Van Bilderberg Rompuy. But if you throw in a packet of scrummy Oreo's , i will try my best yes

Edited by NismoGT on Sunday 22 November 12:05

Guybrush

4,364 posts

236 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Yes, no surprise there. No doubt there'll be a "climate tax" soon...

bleesh

1,112 posts

284 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Well, you see what happens when you vote these people in.

But, we didn't did we??
OK - who did?? Did the unelected GB have a hand in Rompuy's election too....??

And I thought it was a democracy we lived in....

tegwin

1,682 posts

236 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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How is that going to help the UK? Tax being syphoned off to the EU and presumably given to those countries who are struggling (and contributing the least to the EU)..

So we now not only pay for the wealfare of all of our chavs, pikeys and gypos... but we have to pay for international ones as well... nice!

rs1952

5,247 posts

289 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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This is old news - the press has been spouting about his personal views for some time now.

The idea of a tax on financial transactions is dead in the water; Gordo got the message that nobody else was interested in it last week.

The idea of a "Euro Tax" is also probably a dead duck, because all member states would prefer that they funded the EU through diect contributions. It isn't only the UK population that ain't too keen on giving money to the EU, and to see a sum of money levied on everybody's individual spending transactions going to the EU would cause discontent from Galway to the Russian border.

Just because somebody wants somethign doesn't mean they'll get it, and that applies to Belgian committee chairmen as much as to anybody else.

tegwin

1,682 posts

236 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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Im bored ok.....

Better captions accepted on a postcard


Bluebarge

4,519 posts

208 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Can't see what the fuss is about. It's an alternative to the endless budget haggling that takes place between member states and the EU. Now that there are many more member states (which is what the Brits wanted, to counter-balance the influence of France and Germany)it makes sense to attempt to streamline the process.

If you're the type of person who sees evil Euro-federalists everywhere plotting to do down John Bull, then you won't like it. If you're a bit more level-headed then it ain't such a big deal.

AndrewW-G

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Monday 23rd November 2009
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Bluebarge said:
Can't see what the fuss is about. It's an alternative to the endless budget haggling that takes place between member states and the EU. Now that there are many more member states (which is what the Brits wanted, to counter-balance the influence of France and Germany)it makes sense to attempt to streamline the process.
From the various news stories, it would seem that rompuy's proposal is in addition to existing taxation, justified by claiming we need to increase EU expenditure.
A quick look at the latest available figures from the EU would suggest that the newer EU members receive far more from the EU than they contribute, making changes to or streamlining the donation process is rather pointless as irrespective of the EU zealots propaganda it’s still a lose lose situation for the UK (and Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Italy, France, Austria, Finland!)



Mondeohdear

2,046 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Bluebarge said:
Can't see what the fuss is about. It's an alternative to the endless budget haggling that takes place between member states and the EU. Now that there are many more member states (which is what the Brits wanted, to counter-balance the influence of France and Germany)it makes sense to attempt to streamline the process.

If you're the type of person who sees evil Euro-federalists everywhere plotting to do down John Bull, then you won't like it. If you're a bit more level-headed then it ain't such a big deal.
According to the articel it would appear that all that would happen is that part of our VAT would go directly to Europe, I don't even see why it would need to appear on receipts as that would just make involve costly changes to cash registers etc. (We'd have to use american style registers where they can cope with state, federal taxes).

However, given the parlous state of our finances what are the odds that any EU duties would be imposed over and above VAT instead of as a constituent.

In an ideal world it could work - in Brownsville or Cameroon not a chance.

Bing o

15,184 posts

249 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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We should pay the EU more tax.

Just as soon as it is able to audit it's accounts.

sa_20v

4,112 posts

261 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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He actually said ahead of becoming President that the EU Welfare State would be supported by new Green Taxes. All very socialist it is becoming (for some reason writing like Yoda). rolleyes


esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Guybrush said:
Yes, no surprise there. No doubt there'll be a "climate tax" soon...
You may not have noticed but there already is.....

Lost soul

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212 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Bluebarge said:
Can't see what the fuss is about. It's an alternative to the endless budget haggling that takes place between member states and the EU. Now that there are many more member states (which is what the Brits wanted, to counter-balance the influence of France and Germany)it makes sense to attempt to streamline the process.

If you're the type of person who sees evil Euro-federalists everywhere plotting to do down John Bull, then you won't like it. If you're a bit more level-headed then it ain't such a big deal.
So do you imagine that the national UK tax would be lowered by the same amount as the EU tax hehe

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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Bluebarge said:
Can't see what the fuss is about. It's an alternative to the endless budget haggling that takes place between member states and the EU. Now that there are many more member states (which is what the Brits wanted, to counter-balance the influence of France and Germany)it makes sense to attempt to streamline the process.

If you're the type of person who sees evil Euro-federalists everywhere plotting to do down John Bull, then you won't like it. If you're a bit more level-headed then it ain't such a big deal.
Don't you think the EU get enough of our money? Without seeming to account for it..

andy400

11,691 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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esselte said:
Bluebarge said:
Can't see what the fuss is about. It's an alternative to the endless budget haggling that takes place between member states and the EU. Now that there are many more member states (which is what the Brits wanted, to counter-balance the influence of France and Germany)it makes sense to attempt to streamline the process.

If you're the type of person who sees evil Euro-federalists everywhere plotting to do down John Bull, then you won't like it. If you're a bit more level-headed then it ain't such a big deal.
Don't you think the EU get enough of our money? Without seeming to account for it..
yes 40 million a day, last I heard. Think this is the truth and not even a Daily Mail estimate. Scares the st out of me. I'd love to believe that we benefit from EU membership to the tune of more than 40 million a day, but somehow I think not.

Tangent Police

3,097 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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andy400 said:
esselte said:
Bluebarge said:
Can't see what the fuss is about. It's an alternative to the endless budget haggling that takes place between member states and the EU. Now that there are many more member states (which is what the Brits wanted, to counter-balance the influence of France and Germany)it makes sense to attempt to streamline the process.

If you're the type of person who sees evil Euro-federalists everywhere plotting to do down John Bull, then you won't like it. If you're a bit more level-headed then it ain't such a big deal.
Don't you think the EU get enough of our money? Without seeming to account for it..
yes 40 million a day, last I heard. Think this is the truth and not even a Daily Mail estimate. Scares the st out of me. I'd love to believe that we benefit from EU membership to the tune of more than 40 million a day, but somehow I think not.
140m a day, was it not?

andy400

11,691 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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Tangent Police said:
andy400 said:
esselte said:
Bluebarge said:
Can't see what the fuss is about. It's an alternative to the endless budget haggling that takes place between member states and the EU. Now that there are many more member states (which is what the Brits wanted, to counter-balance the influence of France and Germany)it makes sense to attempt to streamline the process.

If you're the type of person who sees evil Euro-federalists everywhere plotting to do down John Bull, then you won't like it. If you're a bit more level-headed then it ain't such a big deal.
Don't you think the EU get enough of our money? Without seeming to account for it..
yes 40 million a day, last I heard. Think this is the truth and not even a Daily Mail estimate. Scares the st out of me. I'd love to believe that we benefit from EU membership to the tune of more than 40 million a day, but somehow I think not.
140m a day, was it not?
eek Really?!? Blimey, did I misread the figure, or did my brain adjust it automatically in a self-protective measure.......