Xenon headlights in an Exige S2?
Xenon headlights in an Exige S2?
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CycleSi

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510 posts

216 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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ls it possible to fit xenon headlights to a 2009/58 plate Exige S2?

Has anyone done it?

Any recommendations?

AMGexigeS

488 posts

211 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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Hi si, just dropped you an email about your car. As for Xenons, as far I understand, it appears the lights on the later cars like ours changed from late 2007? The kits that everyone appears to be fitting don't fit the later headlights. Not heard of anyone fitting them on ours as yet but wouldn't mind doing it myself. Al

21TonyK

12,941 posts

232 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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What bulbs? Most seem to have HID equivalents via eBay (beware oque seller out there apparently). I changed dip and main beam on my 2004 Exige for £120

Grinnders

1,558 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd November 2009
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check elise-shop.com. Yvo very helpful and his kits are good quality. He knows the difference in models and whether you'll need an H1 or H7.

He often does a SELOC group buy discount at Christmas too wink

uzbek

43 posts

200 months

Thursday 26th November 2009
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FWIW a set of high intensity conventional bulbs from Halfords made a big difference to my dip beam power. I was already pretty happy with the full beam (the touring pack driving lights are excellent)

LotusEater666

187 posts

223 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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So is there any real reason to choose a full HID upgrade kit over xenon bulbs that just directly replace the old halogen ones?

Grinnders

1,558 posts

227 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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HID upgrades are Xenon gas. what burns is a gas. Technically you could argue they are not a bulb but a "burner".

It is not a filament like Halogen bulb, no matter what power you get from Halfords, hence the difference in hue between yellowy white (halogen) and bluey white (Xenon)

On an S1 you have a H4 Hi/Lo kit, 1 burner performing both Lo and Hi beams. With S2 you would need a separate burner for each lamp; i.e. 1 for lo beam, 1 for hi beam and 1 for spots. As Lo beam is the light you'll use more than any other (bit like a putter in your golf bag) I would recommend S2 owners upgrading that one first, perhaps complimenting with LED sidelights (usually about £10 a pair from aceparts) to give a harmonised look.

The technical bit about HIDs is you need a lot of power to ignite the Xenon gas. To provide this short term boost your existing wiring is diverted to a ballast. This stores a charge from your battery and then releases it in one blast to illuminate the burner. Once lit the lights draw LESS power than traditional Halogens. The kits provide new wires to go from the ballast to the new burner. Some kits provide a seperate wiring harness, but still take the on/off signal feed from your existing lights.

Although doing all lights with HIDs look good (I did it) and down dark country lanes REALLY lights up the hedgerows, for obvious reasons the Hi beam and spots will only be used when no other cars are in front of you.

1 observation. Some S2 users have recorded interference with the radio system. S1s are notoriuosly bad as the aerial is above the engine bay, so the ballasts installed in the wings didn't make mine any poorer than it already was. With S2s I think the aerials run across the front of the car so may be a bigger issue. This is where the support from Yvo could be invaluable.


LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

224 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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At least on my 111R it runs under the passenger side "hump" at the front, so quite near to where you'd want a ballast/igniter. I've got ones from Yvo - nothing really special, can get the same off of eBay for much less it turns out - but at least you know they'll work fine and get good service from Yvo. On full beam they are something to behold, lighting up a massive area - still not to clever in dipped I find, but I remember them being better last year so I'm not sure if someone has adjusted my lights at MOT time.

21TonyK

12,941 posts

232 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Heres mine, LED side lights, then dip then main beam. Was going to do the driving lights but looks like a real PITA job I'll give that a miss.

Grinnders

1,558 posts

227 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Looks sweet.

Presumably with an s2 your are going to need to find room for 6 ballasts, so dimensions of these may be an important factor.

With the S1s (because of Hi/Lo arrangement) you only need 4 (2 each side) for Hi/Lo & Spot.

bogie

16,891 posts

295 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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theres plenty of room for 6 ballasts, I had the same on my old S2 back in 2003. You just need to get the right bulb type for the spotlights ...its like driving in daylight with all 6 done - particularly if you get the the driving lights aimed properly with the high beam

if your dips dont seem that great, even with HIDs, likely they need aligning properly at an MOT place ...make sure to get them done towards the top of the range that is allowed

tanman

505 posts

258 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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21TonyK said:




Heres mine, LED side lights, then dip then main beam. Was going to do the driving lights but looks like a real PITA job I'll give that a miss.
Do the driving lights but it's a PITA job???? Tony, look at the state of your garage!!!!! tongue out

21TonyK

12,941 posts

232 months

Sunday 29th November 2009
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tanman said:
Do the driving lights but it's a PITA job???? Tony, look at the state of your garage!!!!! tongue out
Hey Andy, I'm assuming it's a clam off job but maybe not. Yep, garage is a st tip till it's warm enough to spend the day tidying it up (ie. next summer laugh )

pagey25

8 posts

218 months

Friday 11th December 2009
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I'm very new to Elise ownership, and would love to change the lights I'm debating doing this upgrade, however I'm fingers and thumbs, how long did it take you to do the 6 lights? I presume it's car on the jack and wheel off to get access to the lamp unit. Where did you put the 3 ballasts on each side of the car?

21TonyK

12,941 posts

232 months

Friday 11th December 2009
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pagey25 said:
I'm very new to Elise ownership, and would love to change the lights I'm debating doing this upgrade, however I'm fingers and thumbs, how long did it take you to do the 6 lights? I presume it's car on the jack and wheel off to get access to the lamp unit. Where did you put the 3 ballasts on each side of the car?
It's not a difficult job but it's awkward as everything is a tight fit. Basically whip the wheels off, remove the arch liners and the headlamp cover, then a few bolds that hold the lamp assembly in place. That makes like a lot easier.

On mine I've only done the dip and main beam so two ballasts. The side lights are LED so a straight swap. The ballasts are just fixed to the crash structure with sticky pads and a couple of self tapping screws.

I'd allow a good afternoon to do it. Having done it once, worked out all the positioning etc I reckon I could do the job again in a couple of hours tops.

It's not technically difficult and witht eh eBay kits I've used no cutting or joining of wires. All just clips together.

pagey25

8 posts

218 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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thank you, I'm going to give it a go, what kitsndid you buy, as there seems to a lot of options out there

21TonyK

12,941 posts

232 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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pagey25 said:
thank you, I'm going to give it a go, what kitsndid you buy, as there seems to a lot of options out there
The eBay seller I got mine from doesn't exist any more (!) but I think they're all pretty much the same. I'm going to be taking the driving lights off this morning with the idea of upgrading them as well so if I find something resembling what I used in the past I'll post up on here.