Student urinating on war memorial
Student urinating on war memorial
Author
Discussion

Guffy

Original Poster:

2,370 posts

295 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Just seen the news reporting a student who urinated on a war memorial when he was completely wkered on booze after a student night out.

While this is a particularly noisome act, they're actually talking about prison!! Yes he should be horse-whipped at dawn, but prison FFS, ridiculous!!

Muntu

7,684 posts

229 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Guffy said:
Just seen the news reporting a student who urinated on a war memorial when he was completely wkered on booze after a student night out.

While this is a particularly noisome act, they're actually talking about prison!! Yes he should be horse-whipped at dawn, but prison FFS, ridiculous!!
A few months inside would do him the world of good, the filthy little .

Pissing on a war memorial indeed.

Jasandjules

72,605 posts

259 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Depends, was it a drunken prank? Or was there any intent? If drunken, the a few lashes in the town square should suffice, along with a public apology.

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Guffy said:
While this is a particularly noisome act, they're actually talking about prison!! Yes he should be horse-whipped at dawn, but prison FFS, ridiculous!!
Yup, deserves prison, although I doubt he will be jailed.

Absolutely no reason to relieve yourself on a war memorial, and especially over the poppy wreathes that have been laid down. And being drunk is no excuse either.

The only reason some people might think its a disproportionate punishment is because we rarely punish things anyway at the moment, but that doesn't excuse them or this chap.

Guffy

Original Poster:

2,370 posts

295 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
I'm not in any way suggesting he should escape punishment, but wouldn't our over crowded prisons be better populated with criminals who are considered a danger to the public? What's wrong with 12 months community service?

toppstuff

13,698 posts

277 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
I seriously think we should find a way to introduce a sense of shame into modern life.

A magistrate should have the powers to instruct a scrote like this one, to stand up in a public environment in the centre of a shopping centre on a saturday and be obliged to speak out a formal apology. Crowds of people should gather to witness it, free to heckle and abuse as they see fit, or to stand in judgemental silence. He must be made to squirm like the worm he is. And if he does not do it, his parents have to do it instead.

If people had a sense of shame, anti-social behaviour would be less common. Deep , deep down in even the most obnoxious of scrotes and ne'er do wells, there is a human desire to be approved of, to be wanted. Get through to that and a sense of shame for wrong doing can be uncovered. In time I think it would be a major deterrent.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Guffy said:
but prison FFS, ridiculous!!
I strongly disagree with you.

Muntu

7,684 posts

229 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Guffy said:
I'm not in any way suggesting he should escape punishment, but wouldn't our over crowded prisons be better populated with criminals who are considered a danger to the public? What's wrong with 12 months community service?
Or a week at a Kenyan game reserve even...

audidoody

8,598 posts

286 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
toppstuff said:
I seriously think we should find a way to introduce a sense of shame into modern life.

A magistrate should have the powers to instruct a scrote like this one, to stand up in a public environment in the centre of a shopping centre on a saturday and be obliged to speak out a formal apology. Crowds of people should gather to witness it, free to heckle and abuse as they see fit, or to stand in judgemental silence. He must be made to squirm like the worm he is. And if he does not do it, his parents have to do it instead.
Excellent solution. Except you left out the bit where he would be flown to Camp Bastion and made to announce his formal apology in front of the assembled ranks.

audidoody

8,598 posts

286 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
toppstuff said:
I seriously think we should find a way to introduce a sense of shame into modern life.

A magistrate should have the powers to instruct a scrote like this one, to stand up in a public environment in the centre of a shopping centre on a saturday and be obliged to speak out a formal apology. Crowds of people should gather to witness it, free to heckle and abuse as they see fit, or to stand in judgemental silence. He must be made to squirm like the worm he is. And if he does not do it, his parents have to do it instead.
Excellent solution. Except you left out the bit where he would be flown to Camp Bastion and made to announce his formal apology in front of the assembled ranks.

Guffy

Original Poster:

2,370 posts

295 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
OnTheOverrun said:
Guffy said:
but prison FFS, ridiculous!!
I strongly disagree with you.
I strongly disagree with you smile


audidoody

8,598 posts

286 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
toppstuff said:
I seriously think we should find a way to introduce a sense of shame into modern life.

A magistrate should have the powers to instruct a scrote like this one, to stand up in a public environment in the centre of a shopping centre on a saturday and be obliged to speak out a formal apology. Crowds of people should gather to witness it, free to heckle and abuse as they see fit, or to stand in judgemental silence. He must be made to squirm like the worm he is. And if he does not do it, his parents have to do it instead.
Excellent solution. Except you left out the bit where he would be flown to Camp Bastion and made to announce his formal apology in front of the assembled ranks.

tubbystu

3,846 posts

290 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
toppstuff said:
I seriously think we should find a way to introduce a sense of shame into modern life.

A magistrate should have the powers to instruct a scrote like this one, to stand up in a public environment in the centre of a shopping centre on a saturday and be obliged to speak out a formal apology. Crowds of people should gather to witness it, free to heckle and abuse as they see fit, or to stand in judgemental silence. He must be made to squirm like the worm he is. And if he does not do it, his parents have to do it instead.

If people had a sense of shame, anti-social behaviour would be less common. Deep , deep down in even the most obnoxious of scrotes and ne'er do wells, there is a human desire to be approved of, to be wanted. Get through to that and a sense of shame for wrong doing can be uncovered. In time I think it would be a major deterrent.


Hmmmm scratchchin

Russ35

2,706 posts

269 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
We had the same in Blackpool earlier this year. He got something like 100hrs community service and £250 pound fine. I think this was more to do with assaulting a guy that remonstrated with him. He was also met outside court by a group of Veterans, not all of them accepting his apologies.

Local Paper

RonnieP

1,153 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Disgusting behaviour, but there must be a more appropriate way of punishing him surely?

Pesty

42,655 posts

286 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Should make him do 2 tours in Afganistan

Bing o

15,184 posts

249 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Can we punish him just after we have brought all of the muslims who protested against our returning troops have been?

To be fair, he'd done a bottle of wisky and fked up - jail is too much, punish him some other way.

catso

16,451 posts

297 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
Guffy said:
I'm not in any way suggesting he should escape punishment, but wouldn't our over crowded prisons be better populated with criminals who are considered a danger to the public?
Totally agree, save the space for speeding motorists and old Ladies who don't pay their council tax?... rolleyes

hemibum

833 posts

247 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
I believe that Scottish Law is in the process of being amended to remove the plea of being drunk as being an excuse for criminal and anti social behaviour.

Perhaps this may be a major advance in removing an alchohol based defence for this type of behavour.

Personally I think he should be forced to work without pay in my local distillery for 5 years.smile

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

214 months

Wednesday 4th November 2009
quotequote all
he was pissed, it happens, its awful, but get over it, slap on the wrists publicly will do fine, no need to spend taxpayers money, move on.

job done