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ferrisbueller said:
Anyone use them? Any good?
Is there any difference between those in the red packaging and those in the yellow? Places I've looked show different boxes but the bits look the same.
I've got one, don't remember what packaging was it in.Is there any difference between those in the red packaging and those in the yellow? Places I've looked show different boxes but the bits look the same.
Overall I'm very pleased for track and drift days, however I don't like to leave it attached all the time between.
ferrisbueller said:
Anyone use them? Any good?
Is there any difference between those in the red packaging and those in the yellow? Places I've looked show different boxes but the bits look the same.
Brilliant, I wouldn't drive without one after having one, not only do they give you better feel for the car and better stability in your seat but you feel so much safer with one on, I had a high speed crash due to another driver being a C**T whish had my on my side in a lake after hitting several trees, with the other driver just driving off with no regard for my safety at all (also I subsequently lost my job and company car was written off and was still in probation period).Is there any difference between those in the red packaging and those in the yellow? Places I've looked show different boxes but the bits look the same.
I got out of the car with not a scratch on me and I'd put that 40% down to the very safe Toyota Corrola I was in 40% down to the CG-LOCK (as without it I would have come out of my seat a bit hit hit my head whereas I was actually pinned in and kept away from danger) and 20% pure luck!
All in all I'd say that the poultry £40-50 quid they cost is money well well spent!
The difference between the two is the red packaging is mk1 and the yellow is mk2, mk2 has a wider plate on it so its easier to slide (the thinner plate gets stuck sometimes), a longer lever (easier to get to/operate), and I think its quite a bit lighter too.
Hope this helps
J
jarnold88 said:
ferrisbueller said:
Anyone use them? Any good?
Is there any difference between those in the red packaging and those in the yellow? Places I've looked show different boxes but the bits look the same.
Brilliant, I wouldn't drive without one after having one, not only do they give you better feel for the car and better stability in your seat but you feel so much safer with one on, I had a high speed crash due to another driver being a C**T whish had my on my side in a lake after hitting several trees, with the other driver just driving off with no regard for my safety at all (also I subsequently lost my job and company car was written off and was still in probation period).Is there any difference between those in the red packaging and those in the yellow? Places I've looked show different boxes but the bits look the same.
I got out of the car with not a scratch on me and I'd put that 40% down to the very safe Toyota Corrola I was in 40% down to the CG-LOCK (as without it I would have come out of my seat a bit hit hit my head whereas I was actually pinned in and kept away from danger) and 20% pure luck!
All in all I'd say that the poultry £40-50 quid they cost is money well well spent!
The difference between the two is the red packaging is mk1 and the yellow is mk2, mk2 has a wider plate on it so its easier to slide (the thinner plate gets stuck sometimes), a longer lever (easier to get to/operate), and I think its quite a bit lighter too.
Hope this helps
J
I have had one fitted to my Clio 172 Cup for the past 18 months or so. Not massively impressed by it tbh. Bought it as an aid for trackdays and spirited road driving. Did'nt seem to make much of a difference - the fact that I only ever use it on track says it all (it never ever crosses my mind to put it on otherwise).
I think the lack of impact might have been down to the Clio's somewhat unothodox (or crap) driving position. The CG Lock generally has a good reputation as a worthwhile gadget.
I think the lack of impact might have been down to the Clio's somewhat unothodox (or crap) driving position. The CG Lock generally has a good reputation as a worthwhile gadget.
davislove said:
Brilliant - well worth the money
This.Regarding crash safety - if you actually think about how it works youll see it doesnt really effect crash safety - and it DEFINITELY doesnt have any extra affect if you have belt pre-tensioners.
It neither improves, nor reduces crash safety as far as I am concerned.
They are however - brilliant. It keeps you sat more upright, and firmer in the seat at the hips.
Good for track and hooning but also I find - great for long motorway trips - stops you slouching, corrects posture.
For the money a great upgrade. And there's also no point in fitting/unfitting it? I jsut fit it in the car, and leave it.
snotrag said:
davislove said:
Brilliant - well worth the money
This.Regarding crash safety - if you actually think about how it works youll see it doesnt really effect crash safety - and it DEFINITELY doesnt have any extra affect if you have belt pre-tensioners.
I'm a fan. I bought my first cg-lock for the reasons most people do, to help with stability whilst track driving. It does help, why? well if you dont have one you essentially use your hold on the steering wheel to give you stability in the corners, this detracts from feel. If you want to get through a corner at the limit you need as much feel as you can get. If you get 100% feel with a harness you'd perhaps get 75% with a cg-lock and 50% with just a normal seat belt.
The BIGGEST benefit I found however was in day to day driving. I regularly travel on a cross-country route to one of the places I work, it's 60-90 minutes drive
each way and I generally always got out of the car with a stiff back, pretty much went away completely when using the cg-lock.
I was happy to be involved with CG-Lock in promoting their product and they in exchange put a little cash in my sponsorship pot. This video was part of a DVD that I helped on, it does show very well the extra stability you get with the CG-Lock, to be honest the video comparison even surprised me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRDKRq6C4U0
Despite my slick narrative I never did get that call from SCS/DFS
Maxx
The BIGGEST benefit I found however was in day to day driving. I regularly travel on a cross-country route to one of the places I work, it's 60-90 minutes drive
each way and I generally always got out of the car with a stiff back, pretty much went away completely when using the cg-lock.
I was happy to be involved with CG-Lock in promoting their product and they in exchange put a little cash in my sponsorship pot. This video was part of a DVD that I helped on, it does show very well the extra stability you get with the CG-Lock, to be honest the video comparison even surprised me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRDKRq6C4U0
Despite my slick narrative I never did get that call from SCS/DFS
Maxx
Edited by Maxx on Tuesday 3rd November 11:06
[quote=snotrag
Regarding crash safety - if you actually think about how it works youll see it doesnt really effect crash safety - and it DEFINITELY doesnt have any extra affect if you have belt pre-tensioners.
It neither improves, nor reduces crash safety as far as I am concerned.
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I does effect crash safety as it stops you from 'sub-marining' it a heavy front on crash, therefor makes it less likely to smash your knees on the dash, also your lap belt tends to sit fairly loose even if you tighten it, it becomes loose again by itself, so In my case where the car rolled, I stayed pinned into my seat whereas without it i would have moved a good foot upwards hitting my head on the roof of the car, then if it lands on its roof its likely to bend it if only a little bit which means you have even less to travel before your head hits the roof.
although it says "not a safety device" on it, that is only for liability reasons. there was a guy on the nurburgring who had one fitted and when he flipped his beamer like I put befor the roof caved in. he still got head injuries but the medics had told him that without the CG-Lock he would have more than likely been killed.
J
Regarding crash safety - if you actually think about how it works youll see it doesnt really effect crash safety - and it DEFINITELY doesnt have any extra affect if you have belt pre-tensioners.
It neither improves, nor reduces crash safety as far as I am concerned.
[/quote]
I does effect crash safety as it stops you from 'sub-marining' it a heavy front on crash, therefor makes it less likely to smash your knees on the dash, also your lap belt tends to sit fairly loose even if you tighten it, it becomes loose again by itself, so In my case where the car rolled, I stayed pinned into my seat whereas without it i would have moved a good foot upwards hitting my head on the roof of the car, then if it lands on its roof its likely to bend it if only a little bit which means you have even less to travel before your head hits the roof.
although it says "not a safety device" on it, that is only for liability reasons. there was a guy on the nurburgring who had one fitted and when he flipped his beamer like I put befor the roof caved in. he still got head injuries but the medics had told him that without the CG-Lock he would have more than likely been killed.
J
ferrisbueller said:
Thanks for that. Is Mk2 worth double the money of Mk1?
I haven't bought a mk2 yet but im sure they are the same price, if you go on the CG-Lock website they are £39.99 the mk2, infact I'm pretty sure the mk1's you can buy are only stock they have left over, best bet is to give Graham an email, the guy who owns the CG-Lock business.J
I had them fitted to an Mazda MX5 (NA) track car that i was temporarily using day-to-day earlier this year. They're excellent for keeping your hips pinned into the seat under hard conering/braking, which really helps your driving/control. They say its not a 'safety device' for legal reasons, but it clearly is.....
On my way home one evening in the Spring i came to a halt in traffic on a busy trunk road and was promptly hit from behind by a blind old boy in a Volvo doing about 25-30mph. It was a big impact that shot me about 5m forward into the car in front. Car was a total write-off, i had pretty bad whiplash and concussion from whacking the top of my head on the steering wheel. I'm convinced it would have been much worse without CG-locks on the belts.
As an early 90's car there was no airbag, just a horn button/steel trim on the wheel. Without the CG Lock i reckon my hips would have shifted an inch further forward, so rather than a graze on my head my nose would have been smashed to bits on the wheel centre and i'd have been picking my teeth up off the floor........
On my way home one evening in the Spring i came to a halt in traffic on a busy trunk road and was promptly hit from behind by a blind old boy in a Volvo doing about 25-30mph. It was a big impact that shot me about 5m forward into the car in front. Car was a total write-off, i had pretty bad whiplash and concussion from whacking the top of my head on the steering wheel. I'm convinced it would have been much worse without CG-locks on the belts.
As an early 90's car there was no airbag, just a horn button/steel trim on the wheel. Without the CG Lock i reckon my hips would have shifted an inch further forward, so rather than a graze on my head my nose would have been smashed to bits on the wheel centre and i'd have been picking my teeth up off the floor........
I can't get my Mk1 version to attach to the buckle properly. I slide it over the plastic covered back of the buckle as far as it will go, then as I tighten up the Allen bolts they push it out a bit and even when fully tightened, the CG Lock can come off if twisted or pulled.
This happened on my Corvette and my GT-R so I haven't bothered since.
This happened on my Corvette and my GT-R so I haven't bothered since.
PhilipAlfa said:
I've got a mk1 CG Lock which is very good at stopping me sliding around. What's new and improved on the mk 2?
it has a wider plate, so you know when it sticks sometimes when sliding it, the new one is a lot less likely, it has a longer lever on it so its a bit easier to use but the main thing is the weight difference, its a hell of a lot lighter!J
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