RE: Manugistics TVRCC Challenge Cup

RE: Manugistics TVRCC Challenge Cup

Tuesday 13th January 2004

Manugistics TVRCC Challenge Cup

It's taking shape! Special deal on ARDS tests too!


It's what many TVR racers have dreamed of - a TVR only race series. There's something special about the TVR marque and most owners are convinced that their cars are the one to have and could give other models stiff competition around a track.

Now we'll finally have the chance to see the relative performance of the models in a race situation. The new race series will pitch Vixens against Griffiths and Chimaeras against Wedges and just about any other combination you fancy.

It's an evolution of the successful Tasmin series which Steve Lewis got off the ground in the last few years. Now demand from other racers has force the series to widen its remit.

The series will categorise cars into three classes:

Class B
Class B is one of the most powerful, single marque, club racing series for production cars available in the UK today. Through clever power to weight regulations, this class will allow standard 5 litre Griffiths, producing factory standard 340BHP, to compete on equal terms with other high powered Rover and TVR V8 Chimaeras, Griffiths and Cerberas as well as the most up to date TVR Tuscans producing up to 400BHP. The regulations will also allow road going TVRs which have been tuned to compete without having an unfair advantage on those running as standard.
Class A
Class A is open to cars with slightly less power than Class B. These cars are comparable to those developed and raced over the years in the TVRCC Tasmin Challenge. Again, the power to weight standardisation means that less powerful TVRs will still have an equal chance of beating the established Tasmin Challenge cars, as well as race against standard V8 powered TVRs. The regulations also allow leading Class A cars to compete for the overall TVRCC Challenge Cup title on a level playing field with the more powerful class B.
Class Q
If you have already prepared your TVR in such a way that it doesn't conform to the regulations for Class A or B but you want to show the world what it can do, then this is the class for you. This class is open to any production based TVR, subject to acceptance by the organisers. Despite having to run on the same control tyres as the other classes, series points are not available to cars from this class, although it does give spectators an opportunity to be entertained by some of the more extreme machines prepared by enthusiasts, i.e. mad SEACs and Tuscan racers.

Get Racing

There are a number of hurdles that need to be completed in order to go racing and the first of these is to get your National B Race licence which is obtained by attending one of the recognised Association of Racing Driver Schools (ARDS) training days at a cost of around £330-350.  The TVRCC will subsidise some of these fees though (see below).

1. Apply for an RAC MSA ARDS pack. This includes a video and the correct forms and costs £40.

2. Complete a medical check.  This can be done by the applicant’s GP or there might be the opportunity to complete on the ARDS test day, depending upon the venue.

3. With your form and driving licence you attend the ARDS day organised by TVRCC ARDS instructor Steve Lewis at Silverstone or Rockingham.   After initial signing on and a one hour briefing on racecraft and starting racing (exclusive to TVRCC members) you will split up and:

– Take the Medical (if required and available)

– Take the Multiple choice written ARDS test

– Take the ARDS practical test (this would include some (not normally included) pre-assessment in-car instruction, to give the driver time to learn the circuit and get used to what will be expected when the assessment starts.

– For the final activity, the groups will join together and take part in a timed (Fun) autotest.  This will be in a vehicle set up to overteer greatly and is good for teaching throttle control.

4.  For those (hopefully all!!) that have passed, the ARDS forms are stamped and this then allows the new racer to apply to the MSA for their licence.

Instead of the normal cost of £330-350, the TVR Car Club will sponsor the first 10 applicants such that they have to pay just £30 for the day.  All you have to do is commit to racing in at least four rounds of the series.

If you would like to be one of the lucky 10 then you can reserve your place directly with Steve Lewis on 01908 647774.


Author
Discussion

GCerbera

Original Poster:

5,161 posts

257 months

Tuesday 13th January 2004
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Anyone planning to run a Cerbera in the Championship.
If you are, please let me know.

Good luck with this Steve, should see some great racing.


Go create some weather...
It's a road legal Concorde!
Graham
TCR The Cerbera Register

www.TVR-Cerbera.com

Graham

16,369 posts

290 months

Tuesday 13th January 2004
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It would be nice to get a cerb out there, there are a few griffs comming out to play this season and so far i've heard a rumor of a cerb for the following year..

G

swilly

9,699 posts

280 months

Tuesday 13th January 2004
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This is quite exciting.

It would also solve the eternal question....

...."Which is faster Cerb vs Tuscan vs etc etc etc"

t1grm

4,656 posts

290 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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How does this fit in with the Tuscan Challenge? Will they be at the same race meeting? Also, are they going to allow T350's to run in the the Tuscan Challenge this year or this series? Can straight 6 TVR's race in the TVRCC Challenge? Too many questions...

steve lewis

141 posts

290 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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Gary
Your questions answered here I hope.
If in doubt email the coordinator
steve@b-chip.com


Please find below the dates for the 2004 MANUGISTICS TVRCC Series:

17-18/04/04 Pembrey (Double Header)
09/05/04 Cadwell Park
30-31/05/04 Snetterton
03-04/07/04 Anglesey (Double Header)
17/07/04 Lydden Hill
07-08/08/04 Brands Hatch
28-29/08/04 Rockingham (Double Header)
19/09/04 Mallory Park
02/10/04 Oulton Park


The TVRCC Challenge Cup is the most exciting club racing series to come to the UK for years, enabling amateur racing drivers to compete in production based cars of THE british sports car marque. The emphasis is on powerful, front engined, rear wheel drive cars which look and sound like racing cars should.

Production TVRs pack so much performance as standard, that relatively little work is required to ready them for the track. The principles of the series are to ensure that racing is open to all comers without the need for professional teams or their associated budgets in order to be competitive. A single control tyre rule and clever technology will ensure that cars can compete on a level playing field.

The series is an evolution of the successful TVRCC Tasmin Challenge run by the British Automobile Racing Club. This ensures an existing pedigree for organisation and publicity, as well as an established grid of prepared cars.

Class B
Class B is one of the most powerful, single marque, club racing series for production cars available in the UK today. Through clever power to weight regulations, this class will allow standard 5 litre Griffiths, producing factory standard 340BHP, to compete on equal terms with other high powered Rover and TVR V8 Chimaeras, Griffiths and Cerberas as well as the most up to date TVR Tuscans producing up to 400BHP. The regulations will also allow road going TVRs which have been tuned to compete without having an unfair advantage on those running as standard.

Class A
Class A is open to cars with slightly less power than Class B. These cars are comparable to those developed and raced over the years in the TVRCC Tasmin Challenge. Again, the power to weight standardisation means that less powerful TVRs will still have an equal chance of beating the established Tasmin Challenge cars, as well as race against standard V8 powered TVRs. The regulations also allow leading Class A cars to compete for the overall TVRCC Challenge Cup title on a level playing field with the more powerful class B.

Class Q
If you have already prepared your TVR in such a way that it doesn't conform to the regulations for Class A or B but you want to show the world what it can do, then this is the class for you. This class is open to any production based TVR, subject to acceptance by the organisers. Despite having to run on the same control tyres as the other classes, Series points are not available to cars from this class, although it does give spectators an opportunity to be entertained by some of the more extreme machines prepared by enthusiasts.

Contact:
Steve Lewis
Challenge Coordinator
07785 773341



from Steve Lewis (TVR Car Club Challenge Cup coordinator):

"Okay, so you've done the track days in your Griff, SEAC or
Vixen. You've watched the Tuscans and the GTs. You've even
watched the Formula 1 boys and thought you could do that. Well
perhaps you can. Ever fancied yourself at the wheel of a 3000M
dualling with an S3 into Paddock Hill at Brands Hatch or a Chimaera
going past a 400SE under braking into the complex at Thruxton? The
TVR Car Club, with its firm commitment to entry level motorsport can
help you to achieve your dream in 2004.

There are a number of hurdles that need to be completed in order to
go racing and the first of these is to get your National B Race
licence which is obtained by attending one of the recognised
Association of Racing Driver Schools (ARDS) training days at a cost
of around £330-350. But in order to support the first season of
the TVR Car Club Challenge Cup by getting some new faces out onto
grid, we are offering the chance for 10 ab-initio competitors to
obtain this licence at a fraction of the normal cost. If you would
like to be one of the lucky 10, all you have to do is the following:

1. Apply for an RAC MSA ARDS pack. This includes a video and the
correct forms and costs £40.

2. Complete a medical check. This can be done by the applicant's
GP or there might be the opportunity to complete on the ARDS test
day, depending upon the venue.

3. With your form and driving licence you attend the ARDS day
organised by TVRCC ARDS instructor Steve Lewis at Silverstone or
Rockingham. After initial signing on and a one hour briefing on
racecraft and starting racing (exclusive to TVRCC members) you will
split up and:

– Take the Medical (if required and available)

– Take the Multiple choice written ARDS test

– Take the ARDS practical test (this would include some (not
normally included) pre-assessment in-car instruction, to give the
driver time to learn the circuit and get used to what will be
expected when the assessment starts.

– For the final activity, the groups will join together and take
part in a timed (Fun) autotest. This will be in a vehicle set up to
overteer greatly and is good for teaching throttle control.

4. For those (hopefully all!!) that have passed, the ARDS forms are
stamped and this then allows the new racer to apply to the MSA for
their licence.

Instead of the normal cost of £330-350, the TVR Car Club will
sponsor the first 10 applicants such that they have to pay just
£30 for the day.

What commitment do we want from you? The TVRCC is doing this to
boost the size of the grids in the Challenge Cup in 2004. There are
a number of Tasmin Challenge cars that are available for hire and
thus, armed with your National B Licence, a set of race overalls,
helmet, boots and gloves, you could be sat in one of these cars for a
number of races this year. All we ask is that having participated in
the reduced price ARDS day, you make a commitment to us to enter at
least four rounds of the Challenge Cup this year. We will ask you to
sign an undertaking to that effect before we can accept you for a
place on the course. But what better way is there of experiencing
the adrenalin that fills Schumacher's, Coulthard's or
Stanton's veins?

If you'd like to have a go but cannot commit to four rounds of
the Challenge Cup, there will be non-discounted places available on
the day. And you will still get the extra instruction not normally
available on ARDS test days.

This day will take place at either Rockingham or Silverstone in
March – date to be confirmed as this issue of Sprint went to
press. It will be advertised on the website – www.tvrcc.com
and will be in March Sprint. But if you would like to be one of the
lucky 10 then you can reserve your place directly with Steve Lewis on
01908 647774 or e-mail steve@b-chip.com. If you want to take your
licence but cannot wait until March, there is the possibility of a
non-sponsored day on 9th February at Silverstone. Please contact
Steve for more details.

Don't be one of the ones who have said "Enough watching
someone else do what I want to do..." or "If I don't try I
won't know..." Sign up now. And you could be lifting the
Challenge Cup at the awards dinner in the Autumn."


Graham

16,369 posts

290 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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>>How does this fit in with the Tuscan Challenge?

Separate entity, organised with the club racer in mind, where you can run your own car, rather than big budget big team stuff. ( peeps ran tasmins last year for less than a tuscan tyre budget !!!)

The Tuscan Challenge is orgnaised by the TVR factory and the BRSCC

The TVRCC challenge cup ( was TVRCC Tasmin Challenge) is organised by the tvr car club, steve lewis and BARC.

>>>Will they be at the same race meeting?

Sadly No, again you need bigger bucks to run with a headline series like f3/gt. we run with BARC on the dates above.

ALthough there is an outside chance of an invitation race at some point on a gt weekend.


>>> Also, are they going to allow T350's to run in the the Tuscan Challenge this year or this series?

Both i believe. although it will be the full on race sagaris in the TVR Tuscan challenge, and you'd have to convert your road T350 for the TVRCC Challenge Cup

>>>Can straight 6 TVR's race in the TVRCC Challenge?

Yes its open to any TVR, as long as and engine based on the block fitted by the factory to that model is fitted .

You must however work out which power to weight category you want to enter.

With the availability of cat c damaged tuscans about i expect one will be along shortly

ANy help

G

t1grm

4,656 posts

290 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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Cheers for the answers folks. Looks like a fun season ahead whatever your budget!

neil_s

95 posts

249 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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Question - Are slicks allowed in any of the classes ?

>> Edited by neil_s on Thursday 15th January 09:50

griff2be

5,089 posts

273 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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No - all tyres are control treaded race tyres

neil_s

95 posts

249 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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Pitty! Thanks for the info anyway.

Graham

16,369 posts

290 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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Tyres :-
KUMHO Ecsta V700 (K9A) is Mandatory fitment.
maximum marked section width 245mm
Max ,arked aspect ratio 35mm - i assume this means 35%
max marked rim dia = 18 inch


so thats a no to slicks, we did look at using colway moulded slicks but there were questions about wet weather rules that made thigns to complicated..

steve lewis

141 posts

290 months

Saturday 21st February 2004
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THE FIRST 285BHP TAZ HITS THE ROAD
Monday should see the first straight line testing of a revised Tasmin.
Kevan Gore has bitten the bullet and Moore Racing have produced an excellent job of sliding in the revised injun.

We await the results, which will be the shakedown for circuit testing later in the month.

joospeed

4,473 posts

284 months

Sunday 22nd February 2004
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good news .. should be a great sight

griffdude

1,834 posts

254 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Cosmins looked v quick even altho they were rev limited.

Graham

16,369 posts

290 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Although not as quick as a certain pink 2.8

when running full boost and with lsd'd they should fly...


they were limiting them to about 4krpm and they'll rev to 9!!!!!

>> Edited by Graham on Monday 1st March 18:50

archibold

76 posts

289 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Graham

There are now some pictures of your car and the new spec turbo tasmins at www.moore-racing.com

Archibold

PS Note the snow on the mountains in the background !

steve lewis

141 posts

290 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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TVR Drivers are made of tough stuff!

You know before you open the curtains when there is snow outside...
That early light and deadened sound.
So dawned March 12th the TVRCC ARDS day at Silverstone.

Leigh (No.1 and only Son) and myself hooked up the trailer with Kevan Gores Cosworth powered Tasmin and headed into the blizzard. The rule here is that until we know the day is cancelled we have to make our way there.
Haha that was easier said than done. 15cms of snow while towing a trailer can be interesting. We passed the time watching other drivers skid majestically into certain parts of the scenery.

On arrival at Silverstone 07.30am it was evident that there would be no driving on the circuit.
The security guards were stopping people entering the circuit as it was considered dangerous to even drive on the access roads. Not so for our intrepid Club members though.

A plan was hatched to have some classroom tuition and take the written ARDS test. At least it would have made the effort and bravery somewhat worthwhile.

The drivers turned up over a period of an hour with great stories.
Cliff Jobson arrived in his Cerbera! Even those with 4x4s, ESP, ABS, etc. found the going tough so serious cred to Cliff.
Dave Reynolds stayed at a B&B in Silverstone village overnight but found his Griff could not be dug out of the snow so WALKED! to the circuit. In total we had a full compliment of 12 for the ARDS test. All passed the written test and now look forward to the next instalment with the driving tuition, assessment and fun Autotest.

Watch this space.
Long term weather forecast anyone!?


Steve Lewis
Partner
Blue Chip
www.b-chip.com
www.show2go.co.uk


ceejay

1,278 posts

260 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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Thanx Steve for managing to convince the Sillystone guys to let us in and take the written test at least.

Great to meet you at last.

Still think they should have let us take the test in some rally cars or those orangey landrover things!!!!!


Cliff

marino

185 posts

258 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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Cliff, thanks for the lift back. Had to call the RAC as the engine wouldn't catch, an hour later and on my way home.

Steve, thanks for sorting out what you could today, hopefully the majority will compete this year. From what I have heard from my spies, I may not be too dissappointed if you do not race

Dave.

Graham

16,369 posts

290 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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Steves got to come out this year i've got my targets set on him

how about you dave...


come on down

G& topless taz