A “Which car” – MCS or ITR
Discussion
Following on from some of my other threads, what are people’s views on these two cars?
My take is they are quite similar yet very different, but both capable of doing the same job, as in being a fun daily driver with somewhat sensible running costs and comforts.
Both weigh about the same and have similar power.
I like the ITR for its looks (UK spec) and design intent. The passion gone into making it, I also know it’s a real driver’s car. But it is rather bland inside, a little chavy on the outside, noisy and not the most comfy.
Also they are now getting on a bit, rust seems it might be an issue on UK cars now as well and most have lots of miles on them 70,000 – 130,000.
The MINI Cooper S on the other hand is full of style, flamboyance and flare. I love the way these look too, although you see MINI’s everywhere these days. These too are meant to be fast and fun, although I’ve not driven one.
Early examples are newer than any of the DC2 ITR’s and there seem to be plenty with around 40,000 miles or so on the clock.
So assuming spending around £4500 on an ITR or £6500 on an MCS
Which is the better bet and why?
My take is they are quite similar yet very different, but both capable of doing the same job, as in being a fun daily driver with somewhat sensible running costs and comforts.
Both weigh about the same and have similar power.
I like the ITR for its looks (UK spec) and design intent. The passion gone into making it, I also know it’s a real driver’s car. But it is rather bland inside, a little chavy on the outside, noisy and not the most comfy.
Also they are now getting on a bit, rust seems it might be an issue on UK cars now as well and most have lots of miles on them 70,000 – 130,000.
The MINI Cooper S on the other hand is full of style, flamboyance and flare. I love the way these look too, although you see MINI’s everywhere these days. These too are meant to be fast and fun, although I’ve not driven one.
Early examples are newer than any of the DC2 ITR’s and there seem to be plenty with around 40,000 miles or so on the clock.
So assuming spending around £4500 on an ITR or £6500 on an MCS
Which is the better bet and why?
Never driven a Jap car (save for my mega old 323 glx) but I have driven a cooper, and it was awesome fun. It's my g/f's car, and i do look a "bit" gay when driving it, but it goes well and handles well.
I imagine the cooper S is even better, my money would go with the MINI for sure, but again, I've no experience with the ITR.
I imagine the cooper S is even better, my money would go with the MINI for sure, but again, I've no experience with the ITR.
300bhp/ton said:
Following on from some of my other threads, what are people’s views on these two cars?
My take is they are quite similar yet very different, but both capable of doing the same job, as in being a fun daily driver with somewhat sensible running costs and comforts.
Both weigh about the same and have similar power.
I like the ITR for its looks (UK spec) and design intent. The passion gone into making it, I also know it’s a real driver’s car. But it is rather bland inside, a little chavy on the outside, noisy and not the most comfy.
Also they are now getting on a bit, rust seems it might be an issue on UK cars now as well and most have lots of miles on them 70,000 – 130,000.
The MINI Cooper S on the other hand is full of style, flamboyance and flare. I love the way these look too, although you see MINI’s everywhere these days. These too are meant to be fast and fun, although I’ve not driven one.
Early examples are newer than any of the DC2 ITR’s and there seem to be plenty with around 40,000 miles or so on the clock.
So assuming spending around £4500 on an ITR or £6500 on an MCS
Which is the better bet and why?
Bias opinion but the ITR is the quicker and more focused of the two. The MCS will be fun to drive and more comfortable but no more reliable.My take is they are quite similar yet very different, but both capable of doing the same job, as in being a fun daily driver with somewhat sensible running costs and comforts.
Both weigh about the same and have similar power.
I like the ITR for its looks (UK spec) and design intent. The passion gone into making it, I also know it’s a real driver’s car. But it is rather bland inside, a little chavy on the outside, noisy and not the most comfy.
Also they are now getting on a bit, rust seems it might be an issue on UK cars now as well and most have lots of miles on them 70,000 – 130,000.
The MINI Cooper S on the other hand is full of style, flamboyance and flare. I love the way these look too, although you see MINI’s everywhere these days. These too are meant to be fast and fun, although I’ve not driven one.
Early examples are newer than any of the DC2 ITR’s and there seem to be plenty with around 40,000 miles or so on the clock.
So assuming spending around £4500 on an ITR or £6500 on an MCS
Which is the better bet and why?
I say the ITR all the way, especially as your saving 2K on the outright price. I would assume that the Honda is much cheaper to maintain as well.
Personally I would go with the MCS if I had the money, you are not going to take the hit in depreciation on it. (not that you would with the integra either)
I have driven the R53 (superchanged) MCS and I have to say I don't think I have even smiled as much whilst driving a car.
The sound of the s/c is simply brilliant, it is fun in the back roads. and sensible enough down the motorway. it is also a very nice place to be as well!
Plus I do think they look cool.
I have driven the R53 (superchanged) MCS and I have to say I don't think I have even smiled as much whilst driving a car.
The sound of the s/c is simply brilliant, it is fun in the back roads. and sensible enough down the motorway. it is also a very nice place to be as well!
Plus I do think they look cool.
Beefmeister said:
wow thanks that really helps....At least when I post them as options its too "which RWD coupe" type of questions.
300bhp/ton said:
daz4m said:
Jag X type would be better.
sorry I'll think you'll find cocksRus is further down the road on the left.
Previous posts where other PHer's have asked for car recommendations such as hot hatches etc, you have chipped in and recommended an X-Type 3.0 petrol 4wd I seem to re-call. Now you ask for car advice on a hot hatch/sports car and someone recommends an X-Type.
Why have a chip at them? All you have done is remove all credibility from your previous posts.
My work here is done........next?
Edited by Tea of Teabaggin on Thursday 8th October 15:39
300bhp/tonne - lighten up dude, it was all meant in jest...
Personally, even though it may be considered herecy, i'd go for the MCS.
As a daily driver its much better - more toys, a bit comfier.
With the age and mileage of ITRs now i would reserve one to be a weekend toy.
The MCS is a terrific car...
Personally, even though it may be considered herecy, i'd go for the MCS.
As a daily driver its much better - more toys, a bit comfier.
With the age and mileage of ITRs now i would reserve one to be a weekend toy.
The MCS is a terrific car...
Both are great cars, with the emphasis on driving in the ITR, and everyday useability in the MCS. The MCS has a more adjustable driving position, but the seats are better for fast driving in the ITR. I've no idea which I'd actually go for, I guess it would depend on the type of driving I was doing. The ITR would probably hold its value better too, but I expect they're over-priced now for the age compared with the MCS because of their almost iconic status.
Beefmeister said:
300bhp/tonne - lighten up dude, it was all meant in jest...
Personally, even though it may be considered herecy, i'd go for the MCS.
As a daily driver its much better - more toys, a bit comfier.
With the age and mileage of ITRs now i would reserve one to be a weekend toy.
The MCS is a terrific car...
Cheers Personally, even though it may be considered herecy, i'd go for the MCS.
As a daily driver its much better - more toys, a bit comfier.
With the age and mileage of ITRs now i would reserve one to be a weekend toy.
The MCS is a terrific car...
I know it was meant in jest from you, but then you have people like daz4m who mean it in a very different manner.
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