Which do you prefer ?
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Olivero

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2,157 posts

239 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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As a very quick reaction to each pair, which do you prefer, pick two.
A or B and C or D ?

Oh and critique away.smile


A

or B


C

or D


Edited by Olivero on Thursday 8th October 13:54

AndWhyNot

2,359 posts

229 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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A & C.

To me B & D look too processed, esp the lips on B and the skin tone on D

redtwin

7,518 posts

212 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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A & C

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Also A&C, you havent asked for critique so I'll not offer any smile

Olivero

Original Poster:

2,157 posts

239 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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andy-xr said:
Also A&C, you havent asked for critique so I'll not offer any smile
Give me your best shotsmile

jon-

16,534 posts

246 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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AndWhyNot said:
A & C.

To me B & D look too processed, esp the lips on B and the skin tone on D

ruaricoles

1,240 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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AndWhyNot said:
A & C.

To me B & D look too processed, esp the lips on B and the skin tone on D
My thoughts too!

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Olivero said:
andy-xr said:
Also A&C, you havent asked for critique so I'll not offer any smile
Give me your best shotsmile
hehe

On the basis I've never photographed African/black skin, I can only go on impressions of what you've posted. I hear it's very tricky to shoot.

Lets take A/B - I like this shot more than C/D, the eyes hold me on this shot more than the other. I'm guessing you're heading for somewhere between a beauty and a fashion headshot, and that I'm not sure which would indicate this one hasnt quite hit it.

The hotspot on the shoulder on A, the gape between the fingers on the cheek, eyes slightly soft and the general darkness of the face compared to the rest of the shot makes me move around the frame. When I look at it, my focus is drawn to the shoulder first, it's position is closer to me and is brighter than everything else. The contrast of light/dark of the fingers is where I went next.

The alteration you've made adding in makeup brings out the face, but I'm not sure what the added colour on the forehead and general retouch/smoothing adds. Personally I'd run that by a MUA/stylist and see how they'd brush it, I dont know if you have that option or if you already have. There's a colour cast feel that I think has been picked up when you've altered levels and colour, it may have been if you've filtered it.

It'd be interesting to hear why you went that way and what purpose the shot serves.

Olivero

Original Poster:

2,157 posts

239 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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andy-xr said:
Olivero said:
andy-xr said:
Also A&C, you havent asked for critique so I'll not offer any smile
Give me your best shotsmile
hehe

On the basis I've never photographed African/black skin, I can only go on impressions of what you've posted. I hear it's very tricky to shoot.

Lets take A/B - I like this shot more than C/D, the eyes hold me on this shot more than the other. I'm guessing you're heading for somewhere between a beauty and a fashion headshot, and that I'm not sure which would indicate this one hasnt quite hit it.

The hotspot on the shoulder on A, the gape between the fingers on the cheek, eyes slightly soft and the general darkness of the face compared to the rest of the shot makes me move around the frame. When I look at it, my focus is drawn to the shoulder first, it's position is closer to me and is brighter than everything else. The contrast of light/dark of the fingers is where I went next.

The alteration you've made adding in makeup brings out the face, but I'm not sure what the added colour on the forehead and general retouch/smoothing adds. Personally I'd run that by a MUA/stylist and see how they'd brush it, I dont know if you have that option or if you already have. There's a colour cast feel that I think has been picked up when you've altered levels and colour, it may have been if you've filtered it.

It'd be interesting to hear why you went that way and what purpose the shot serves.
Thanks for the feedback.
Firstly, it was my first time photographing dark skin (in or out of a studio) and the shoot was setup as a test, without much planning. Very much a case of keeping things simple.
Both shots are heavily cropped and were approached as fashion rather than beauty. Both models were not very experienced (especially the second) so a case of trying to get the best out of them.

Shot A is straight out of the camera with no adjustments or post production.
Shot B has been retouched by a friend of mine.

Shot C has been retouched. Skin colors are a little more accurate and the background has been tinted.
Shot D is straight out of the camera.

At the moment I am trying to firstly get much better (so constructive criticism helps) but also decide what direction to take style wise. Next time I would set up the whole day just for beauty, take more time finding the right model, just the right make-up and longer on lighting. First time back in the studio for some time, so just good to be taking photos again.

cliff123

458 posts

272 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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A & C, without a doubt.

Edited by cliff123 on Thursday 8th October 18:05

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Olivero said:
andy-xr said:
Olivero said:
andy-xr said:
Also A&C, you havent asked for critique so I'll not offer any smile
Give me your best shotsmile
hehe

On the basis I've never photographed African/black skin, I can only go on impressions of what you've posted. I hear it's very tricky to shoot.

Lets take A/B - I like this shot more than C/D, the eyes hold me on this shot more than the other. I'm guessing you're heading for somewhere between a beauty and a fashion headshot, and that I'm not sure which would indicate this one hasnt quite hit it.

The hotspot on the shoulder on A, the gape between the fingers on the cheek, eyes slightly soft and the general darkness of the face compared to the rest of the shot makes me move around the frame. When I look at it, my focus is drawn to the shoulder first, it's position is closer to me and is brighter than everything else. The contrast of light/dark of the fingers is where I went next.

The alteration you've made adding in makeup brings out the face, but I'm not sure what the added colour on the forehead and general retouch/smoothing adds. Personally I'd run that by a MUA/stylist and see how they'd brush it, I dont know if you have that option or if you already have. There's a colour cast feel that I think has been picked up when you've altered levels and colour, it may have been if you've filtered it.

It'd be interesting to hear why you went that way and what purpose the shot serves.
Thanks for the feedback.
Firstly, it was my first time photographing dark skin (in or out of a studio) and the shoot was setup as a test, without much planning. Very much a case of keeping things simple.
Both shots are heavily cropped and were approached as fashion rather than beauty. Both models were not very experienced (especially the second) so a case of trying to get the best out of them.

Shot A is straight out of the camera with no adjustments or post production.
Shot B has been retouched by a friend of mine.

Shot C has been retouched. Skin colors are a little more accurate and the background has been tinted.
Shot D is straight out of the camera.

At the moment I am trying to firstly get much better (so constructive criticism helps) but also decide what direction to take style wise. Next time I would set up the whole day just for beauty, take more time finding the right model, just the right make-up and longer on lighting. First time back in the studio for some time, so just good to be taking photos again.
Thats pretty fair I think. Check out the front cover (UK one) of 125 magazine for a hint on skin tone