Power steering
Discussion
Well 2000 grand buys an awful lot of time down at a gym building up those arm muscles...
I know several people who have done it but at 2 grand this could be a sizeable chunk to a car upgrade?
Plus the fact the armchair drivers will all start claiming you are a wus for having PAS
Steve
I know several people who have done it but at 2 grand this could be a sizeable chunk to a car upgrade?
Plus the fact the armchair drivers will all start claiming you are a wus for having PAS

Steve
Tim,
Are you looking at the cost of this because you are looking to buy a Chim without PAS?
Within a hours of buying my '93 non-PAS Chim I thought I had made a big mistake, but after a couple of weeks of getting used to it I wouldn't bother with PAS in the future (just more to go wrong!). I guess it just took a while for my brain to forget how much lighter the steering was on my Audi!
My advice would be not to bother with PAS - if a car has got it then great, but if not don't worry about it.
Are you looking at the cost of this because you are looking to buy a Chim without PAS?
Within a hours of buying my '93 non-PAS Chim I thought I had made a big mistake, but after a couple of weeks of getting used to it I wouldn't bother with PAS in the future (just more to go wrong!). I guess it just took a while for my brain to forget how much lighter the steering was on my Audi!
My advice would be not to bother with PAS - if a car has got it then great, but if not don't worry about it.
Agreed, we spent time driving both and in fact preferred the non-pas option. Maybe it's just us but the wife and I both felt more in tune with the car when there was no PAS getting in the way, you seem to be able to feel the road better - or can you?
Anyway for me it's nice to get out of the company bore and have to actually drive a bloody car!
No PAS, No Climate control, No air bags, No ABS, No Sat-Nav, No Traction control. I'm amazed I can survive a journey!
Anyway for me it's nice to get out of the company bore and have to actually drive a bloody car!
No PAS, No Climate control, No air bags, No ABS, No Sat-Nav, No Traction control. I'm amazed I can survive a journey!
In this day and age of quilted toilet paper and microwave pies you forget how hard it is to steer a car without PAS. I was absolutely knackered after the 100 mile drive home from David Gerald. But you soon get used to it. However, the BIG difference for me is the 'feel'. People forget that PAS works in two ways. It also dampens the shocks and bumps that the road puts on the wheels by effectively working in reverse. Hence you get more 'feel'.
Without PAS the Chimaera is a heavy old car. This is great as, along with everything else (distance to pedals, inability to see over the bonnet), it prevents the wife from foolishly trying to drive it. It also means that you can let go of the wheel as you search for the piece of microwave pie that has slipped from your grasp, without the car veering off at some catastrophic angle.
Without PAS the Chimaera is a heavy old car. This is great as, along with everything else (distance to pedals, inability to see over the bonnet), it prevents the wife from foolishly trying to drive it. It also means that you can let go of the wheel as you search for the piece of microwave pie that has slipped from your grasp, without the car veering off at some catastrophic angle.
PAS works in two ways. It also dampens the shocks and bumps that the road puts on the wheels by effectively working in reverse. Hence you get more 'feel'.
I assume that you are suggesting that the car without PAS has better feel - something I would agree with!
[...] inability to see over the bonnet [...]
and WHAT a view!!! Lovin it, lovin it, lovin it!!! I also think the view in the wing morrors is something else, the rising flank of the car stretching over the rear wheels
I assume that you are suggesting that the car without PAS has better feel - something I would agree with!
[...] inability to see over the bonnet [...]
and WHAT a view!!! Lovin it, lovin it, lovin it!!! I also think the view in the wing morrors is something else, the rising flank of the car stretching over the rear wheels

If you are relying on feel through the steering to work out how close to the limit you are, then by the time you think there is something to adrift, it is probably too late.
I don't have PAS because of the feel, I have it because I can turn the wheel quicker and respond faster when I need a touch of opposite lock.
Steve
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I don't have PAS because of the feel, I have it because I can turn the wheel quicker and respond faster when I need a touch of opposite lock.
Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk
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I don't have PAS because of the feel, I have it because I can turn the wheel quicker and respond faster when I need a touch of opposite lock.
That's the main reason I was considering having it added, but I don't think I'll bother yet. The only time I've really had the back end step out, I just backed off the throttle a bit (yeah, I know you're not supposed to do that) and it came back ok.
I've not reached the confidence level to go round corners and roundabouts on opposite lock yet. And that's probably a good thing

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Tim,
Are you looking at the cost of this because you are looking to buy a Chim without PAS?
Within a hours of buying my '93 non-PAS Chim I thought I had made a big mistake, but after a couple of weeks of getting used to it I wouldn't bother with PAS in the future (just more to go wrong!). I guess it just took a while for my brain to forget how much lighter the steering was on my Audi!
My advice would be not to bother with PAS - if a car has got it then great, but if not don't worry about it.
Thanks for the replies...I have had mine for some 5 yrs and was just wondering what was involved as i might be using it a little more now. lazyness!!!
tim
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