ISO on a digital camera
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Original Poster:

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281 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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We were chatting in the office, what does it actually do if anything when taking in RAW?

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Scott330ci

18,294 posts

231 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Same as it does when shooting in JPEG


bramley

1,692 posts

238 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Eh? Increasing ISO increases the sensor's sensitivity to light, whether it's in jpeg or RAW mode, the function is the same.

Or am I missing the point of your question?

Scott330ci

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231 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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As I understand, I think he means you can take practically an underexposed photo (so much so the photo looks black) and still recover it, so why use the ISO function?


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Original Poster:

5,193 posts

281 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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I was under the impression that RAW takes a snapshot of what the sensor is seeing, so why would sensitivity come into it?

I understand what is does on a film camera.

Perhaps I'm just being dim.

Bee_Jay

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278 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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ISO picks the brightness 'middle' level that the image is recorded at (i.e. the amplification level)

Since RAW files contain way more depth of detail (12-14 bits) than an 8-bit JPEG you can usually rescue 3-4 stops rather than about 1-1.5. Still better to shoot the image at 800 ISO in the first place in RAW than shoot everything at 100 ISO and rely on RAW to magic things out of the dark for you... ;-)

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Original Poster:

5,193 posts

281 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Ah I see. I knew I'd get a sensible, concise answer here smile

_dobbo_

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278 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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If in doubt, give it a go - pull the exposure up on an underexposed RAW file vs increasing the ISO in a camera.

There is a limited amount you can do with a RAW file, before you get ridiculous amounts of yukky noisy areas in the shadows.


bunyarra

325 posts

242 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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The data recorded in a RAW file is dependent on the ISO setting used to capture it. It is as hard coded in RAW as your shutter speed, F stop and focal distance. RAW is just that - the dump of the sensor at that moment in time.

You indeed cannot decide you want an ISO 100, noise free image if you capture it at ISO 800 and find it is riddled with horrible coloured dots in the shadows (and the reverse obviously applies).

The variable RAW elements are primarily white balance - you can adjust this however you wish while having little or loss of data. You will also find, depending on the camera, that there is some more information stored in the RAW data at the edges of the histogram (under exposed and over exposed). Using Photoshop etc. you can "pull" or "push" this data into the image and can sometimes recover information otherwise lost if it was a JPEG capture.