Bike Parking Question in London (OT ?)
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Hi Chaps
Thought someone would be able to point me in the right direction for this !
I regulary ride my bike into town and take advantage of what I thought was a bike perk - that you can park your bike on the skylights that are in the pavements, next to some buildings. The assumption is/was that these are private property, normally belonging to the building that your parking next to.
Is this not the case ?
I got a ticket today, off Monmouth Street, in a small alleyway on such a skylight. I've used it 100's of times before. I called up the Camden parking dept and complained that I was on private property etc They said to write in, but I wanted to check that I was right in the first place ?!!
Already searched the web but no luck
Cheers
Thought someone would be able to point me in the right direction for this !
I regulary ride my bike into town and take advantage of what I thought was a bike perk - that you can park your bike on the skylights that are in the pavements, next to some buildings. The assumption is/was that these are private property, normally belonging to the building that your parking next to.
Is this not the case ?
I got a ticket today, off Monmouth Street, in a small alleyway on such a skylight. I've used it 100's of times before. I called up the Camden parking dept and complained that I was on private property etc They said to write in, but I wanted to check that I was right in the first place ?!!
Already searched the web but no luck
Cheers
I'm afraid this little loophole was closed a couple of years ago - I remember reading about it in MCN. Uncle Ken may have seen fit to exempt bikes from the congestion tax, but have you noticed how the number of bike parking spaces in London have shrunk, and that Westminster are now charging for what spaces there are? Have to be in by 8.00am, otherwise all spots are occupied by scooters!
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f**K ! oh well guess I got away with it for 2 years !!
Scooters everywhere - though you can pick them up pretty easily and move them outside the bay !!
don't you dare pick on the smaller wheeled brothers! they are rebelling, maybe not as much as us, but they still deserve respect!!!!!!!
I sent a reply recently to a bus lane thread on this. I was ticketed last year on my motorbike in Tudor Street in the City on a pavement light. The pavement light in question was part of a long disused newspaper depot.
I sent the minimum fine, but also appealed on the grounds that I was on private property (and offered to send a land registry map to prove it!).
In reply, I got a response from the City's lawyers quoting that the offence relates to parking on a "footway" and rehearsing the relevant bit of the Act that defines a "footway" as (and I haven't kept the letter so I paraphrase) a piece of land over which the public have a usual right of way.
They let me off, but warned me not to do it again. They also sent me a refund of my cheque
hunny bunnies that they are.
Good luck
David
I sent the minimum fine, but also appealed on the grounds that I was on private property (and offered to send a land registry map to prove it!).
In reply, I got a response from the City's lawyers quoting that the offence relates to parking on a "footway" and rehearsing the relevant bit of the Act that defines a "footway" as (and I haven't kept the letter so I paraphrase) a piece of land over which the public have a usual right of way.
They let me off, but warned me not to do it again. They also sent me a refund of my cheque
hunny bunnies that they are. Good luck
David
Forget the false plate. I had my 1100 removed from the 20ft wide paved area outside my gym in Uxbridge last summer by the local nazis, and was then charged £125 to reclaim it. Disc lock, alarm, the lot. Came out of the gym and assumed the bike had been nicked (no message left behind). Only discovered the truth when I reported the "theft".
I only got a bike for commuting - but as said earlier how many bike spaces are there around these days??
If good old crazy Ken had the first clue about reducing congestion, he would make sure they were more bike spaces !! and whilst I'm ranting if the goverment were really serious about it, instead of just raising yet more money they would introduce a tax benefit for homeworkers - that's how to bring congestion - oh and bring in school buses !!!!
If good old crazy Ken had the first clue about reducing congestion, he would make sure they were more bike spaces !! and whilst I'm ranting if the goverment were really serious about it, instead of just raising yet more money they would introduce a tax benefit for homeworkers - that's how to bring congestion - oh and bring in school buses !!!!
quote:Shares in Dressing Gown & Slippers companies would rocket... New trade papers would emerge "Sitting round with your knackers out, smoking pot, weekly"... quality..
if the goverment were really serious about it, instead of just raising yet more money they would introduce a tax benefit for homeworkers
quote:apparently they are doing..
oh and bring in school buses !!!!
Scooters! I now understand the Rockers of the 50's. Take 'em down to Brighton... 
Yes, there are a few who understand the biker ethos, but most just see scooters as cars on two wheels and ride accordingly. Then, when they get to parking, they suddenly change their view and see all two wheeled vehicles as bicycles, moving them hither and yon. The number of times I hear my bike alarm going off to see a scooter rider (note - NOT a scooterist) attempting to wheel 250kg of bike a little to the left! Some might find tearing off their mirrors and leaving them on the seat rather effective - they just pop back on again, but it makes the point! I, however, couldn't possibly consider such an action.
And would someone please explain to them how sidestands work and make them understand that bikes need room on the right to be leaned upright before moving off!!! I think a mouthful of chain lube will do the trick
Yes, there are a few who understand the biker ethos, but most just see scooters as cars on two wheels and ride accordingly. Then, when they get to parking, they suddenly change their view and see all two wheeled vehicles as bicycles, moving them hither and yon. The number of times I hear my bike alarm going off to see a scooter rider (note - NOT a scooterist) attempting to wheel 250kg of bike a little to the left! Some might find tearing off their mirrors and leaving them on the seat rather effective - they just pop back on again, but it makes the point! I, however, couldn't possibly consider such an action. And would someone please explain to them how sidestands work and make them understand that bikes need room on the right to be leaned upright before moving off!!! I think a mouthful of chain lube will do the trick
I used to find scooters a pain, then I rode one. Scared me how wobbly it was after a real bike, so I have respect for them who scoot. Especially the ones that are fast. Ok they don't have the image or the performance, but that doesn't make them bad people. Unless it is that tosser Jamie Wotsisname from the Sainsbury adverts! you know, the irritating fcukwit chef geezer.
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For once Carl, we'll have to agree to differ. I get really wound up by scooter riders when I'm moving around London. THE most annoying thing is when I'm at the front of a queue of traffic on the ZZR, waiting at the lights, and some tw@t on a scooter weaves to the front, crosses over the white line and stops in FRONT of me.
I did a bad thing not long ago - I eased forward and just as the lights were about to change, reached over, removed his keys and threw them under a parked car. Grinned for hours after that!
I did a bad thing not long ago - I eased forward and just as the lights were about to change, reached over, removed his keys and threw them under a parked car. Grinned for hours after that!
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