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anonymous-user

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61 months

Thursday 8th January 2004
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February CAR also has a couple of pages on C6. Their pix are nothing special, especially the front. CAR say the auto is 4 speed and I think 4 must be the most likely for the time being. All in all the new Vette sounds more like a C5.2 than C6, bearing in mind the radical differences between previous generations 3 to 4 to 5.
One of my questions is whether the C5 does or does not have an oil surge problem. I'd assumed the simplification of the C6 oil pan was really just a cost saving measure yet they say the new ZO6 will be dry-sumped. Weird.

te51cle

2,342 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th January 2004
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The C5 has a proper sump baffle to prevent problems, certainly I never experienced any despite some track use.

LuS1fer

41,779 posts

252 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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The more I see of the C6, the more I think it looks ugly or..if not ugly...wrong from some angles. Prefer the C5.

Good to see the British Press are still up to scratch with their amazing knowledge of Corvettes, proclaiming the C6 "the most powerful Corvette in it's history". How dumb have you gotta be to say that when the Z06 has 405bhp.

By my reckoning, the 1970 LS7 at 460bhp was the highest production bhp. Which is no doubt why the new Z06 will get the LS7 tag.

jaytee368

2,058 posts

251 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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IMHO, my first voiced opinion on the C6 is that Steve is right on the money with his comment. It is nothing more than a C5 Mark One. For me it is NOT a new generation Corvette, merely an update/upgrade.
There, I said it... just donning fire retardent suit.

eric the brave

396 posts

254 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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Reminded me of a Maserati! I guess that I would just like the money to be able to afford one ( or a Maserati )

L81

314 posts

254 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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LuS1fer said:
How dumb have you gotta be to say that when the Z06 has 405bhp.

By my reckoning, the 1970 LS7 at 460bhp was the highest production bhp.


Is it because the 1970 figure was measured as gross (at the crank) whereas the C6 (C5.2!) is measured net (at the wheels)??? I do know that the power figures were changed from gross to net in the early 70's, maybe to keep the safety police happy, which is why the earlier C3's had much higher advertised power than my C3's lowly figure (which I'm keeping to myself ).
:beer

chrisx666

808 posts

268 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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I believe both figures are measured at the crank but the old numbers were often gained by running no ancilliaries (alternator, water pump etc), adjusting timing and without exhaust or air filter etc etc. The later measurments were done to SAE (society of automotive engineers) standards and involved dynoing the motor as close to a real installation as possible. I think 'peak' figures were also ignored.

My lists show 'net' figures from 71' on. A base 350cu had 270hp gross and 210hp net. The 454cu was rated at 425gross/325net - quite a difference!!

Sport 718

14 posts

250 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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The new C-6 commercial seems to be in heavy roataion on the televison over here. They keep on showing the maroon and red ones though. I want to see a black or a blue one.

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

260 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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Later ZR1's were rated at 405 BHP measured the same way as Z06 405.

BHP is important, but weight is the other side of the equation.

Haven't seen any figures for weight of the new C6, that will decide how fast it is in relation to other Corvettes.

jaytee368

2,058 posts

251 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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I believe the new C5 Mk 2 is supposed to be lighter by a hundred pounds or more.

LuS1fer

41,779 posts

252 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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Yes, I thought of the gross vs SAE afterwards! The figures for SAE were adopted in 1972 and there were some considerable drops but not solely due to the recalculation but also the dreaded emissions and lowered compression ratios.

However, the fact remains that some journos have short memories to forget the 405bhp ZR1 and the Z06.

I'm sure I saw a spec sheet somewhere that said the C6 was the same weight but better equipped/specified. A 1969 Corvette weighed 3260lbs although I have a figure here for a 1970 of 3720lbs, 1971 3593lbs but it doesn't say with which engines!

>> Edited by LuS1fer on Friday 9th January 15:13

chrisx666

808 posts

268 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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I think we are dangerously into nerd teritory here but a 70' big block weighed 4070lbs 'as tested' by Road and Track .
A Z06/C6 should be a lot quicker - unless the driver is a real pie monster.

2 years since I had a Corvette - any more of this chat and I'll be scanning Autotrader!

LuS1fer

41,779 posts

252 months

Friday 9th January 2004
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Mmmmmmmmmm.......Corvettes.

Damned fine car. Best selling sports car in the world - except the UK.