O/T Download Managers!
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Been trying to download Photshop 6.o Tryout for a week now, doesn't matter when I do I download about 60% then the connection drops! (BT Openworld Anytime)
Does anyone use or can anyone recommend one of these Download Manager things! I think Gozilla is one! Anyone used it? Do they have a major effect on system peformance?? (850Athlon, 512Ram, 30Gb HD, 56k modem)!
And while I'm at it! My modem has just decided it doesn't like W2000! Driver is there, all connected, try reinstall and says "Installation Incomplete, Parameter Missing"
any Adminstrators out there got any ideas???
Cheers
Stuart!
Does anyone use or can anyone recommend one of these Download Manager things! I think Gozilla is one! Anyone used it? Do they have a major effect on system peformance?? (850Athlon, 512Ram, 30Gb HD, 56k modem)!
And while I'm at it! My modem has just decided it doesn't like W2000! Driver is there, all connected, try reinstall and says "Installation Incomplete, Parameter Missing"
any Adminstrators out there got any ideas??? Cheers
Stuart!
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Been trying to download Photshop 6.o Tryout for a week now, doesn't matter when I do I download about 60% then the connection drops! (BT Openworld Anytime)
Does anyone use or can anyone recommend one of these Download Manager things! I think Gozilla is one! Anyone used it? Do they have a major effect on system peformance?? (850Athlon, 512Ram, 30Gb HD, 56k modem)!
And while I'm at it! My modem has just decided it doesn't like W2000! Driver is there, all connected, try reinstall and says "Installation Incomplete, Parameter Missing"
Cheers
Stuart!
Stu, ask me nicely and I'll get one of my broadband chimps to do the do for you. Could it not be that the Anytime is detecting a lack of movement at your end and binning your connection ? I thought that the unlimited ISP's always chucked a connection after so long.
I've little time for download managers, apart from the fact that you can schedule downloads. Most people these days detect when you're trying to make multiple connections, and prevent you from doing so. And on a 56K modem, does it really make a blind bit of difference ? Well, no. If you want more than 5K sustained then its time for ISDN, cable or Broadband.
Apropos your driver, remove it within Device Manager, then reboot your machine. If you get the same problem, get the driver name from the details screen, then remove the device and delete it proper within Explorer.
You might also wish to check for an updated driver for it on the 'Web.
(apologies for the bandwidth Ted)
>> Edited by GregE240 on Thursday 7th March 13:36
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Stu, ask me nicely and I'll get one of my broadband chimps to do the do for you. Could it not be that the Anytime is detecting a lack of movement at your end and binning your connection ? I thought that the unlimited ISP's always chucked a connection after so long.
I've little time for download managers, apart from the fact that you can schedule downloads. Most people these days detect when you're trying to make multiple connections, and prevent you from doing so. And on a 56K modem, does it really make a blind bit of difference ? Well, no. If you want more than 5K sustained then its time for ISDN, cable or Broadband.
Apropos your driver, remove it within Device Manager, then reboot your machine. If you get the same problem, get the driver name from the details screen, then remove the device and delete it proper within Explorer.
You might also wish to check for an updated driver for it on the 'Web.
(apologies for the bandwidth Ted)
Greg,
Hmmm, tempting! A 43Mb download on broadband! Whats a broadband chimp???
As far a ISDN cable and Broadband go. BT say No, No and... erm... No! BarStewards!!! They won't put Broadband in to my area because they haven't got the customer base!! Hmmm! Same for Cable. They say that although ISDN is available at my local Main exchange, about 7K away, the one that sits outside my backdoor is not ISDN compatible! Hmmm. and they put an ISDN line into it last year because??? It's good having friends inside the BT engineers department! But I can't get any of them! They just won't do it! NTL won't bring cable down from Glasgow. They got half way then got bored!! So I'm stuck with dial up!!!
I'm giving up with 2K anyway, but I am downloading the latest driver as I write this!! (See, I can do somehtings with Dail Up!)
Cheers
Stuart!
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Hmmm, tempting! A 43Mb download on broadband! Whats a broadband chimp???
A broadband chimp is loosely defined as someone who works for me in my project team who has broadband at home, and are more than happy to download things I ask them to.
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I'm giving up with 2K anyway, but I am downloading the latest driver as I write this!! (See, I can do somehtings with Dail Up!)
2K's alright. Stick with it if you can - far more stable than anything with a 9 in front of it that MS have produced. Go for XP if you can - I even like the Fisher Price GUI on it now. Although they ought to animate it and have the Teletubbies come bounding over the hill. Perhaps they could ditch the "Babyface" Sun and have Bill Gates' happy, smiling face beaming back at'cha.
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Actually, I've just had a look at my CD collection here, and i happen to have a full version of said product. I'm sure you could have a trial look at it.
>> Edited by GregE240 on Thursday 7th March 14:16
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Although they ought to animate it and have the Teletubbies come bounding over the hill. Perhaps they could ditch the "Babyface" Sun and have Bill Gates' happy, smiling face beaming back at'cha.
Funny you mentioned that. Every time my 2 year old wants to use the computer, she walks over and says "Po, Po...". I would check the "timeout" parameters in Explorer, it certainly sounds like that is what is happening. Also check with the ISP to see if there is a connection time limit (not that they will admit it if there is, but who knows)
ErnestM
BT-Brokenworld drop the line on their anytime service at least once every 2 hours..
Many others do the same, though my freeserve anytime is just peachy and 2 quid a month cheaper (I got chucked off BTanytime for using it too much..
)..
Agree with comments re: Win2k - it's the most stable and (since ME superceded '98) the most widely supported. I'm disinclined from the XP upgrade because of MS's facist licensing policy and the propensity for XP to add digital rights management crap to your MP3s etc..
Stuart: If it's any consolation mate, I live in Basingstoke (close to Motorola, IBM & Sony) and I can't get any broadband cos I'm more than 5.5kms from the exchange
- I do have ISDN, but it's extortionately expensive and can't really be justified over a good 56k connection..
Many others do the same, though my freeserve anytime is just peachy and 2 quid a month cheaper (I got chucked off BTanytime for using it too much..
).. Agree with comments re: Win2k - it's the most stable and (since ME superceded '98) the most widely supported. I'm disinclined from the XP upgrade because of MS's facist licensing policy and the propensity for XP to add digital rights management crap to your MP3s etc..
Stuart: If it's any consolation mate, I live in Basingstoke (close to Motorola, IBM & Sony) and I can't get any broadband cos I'm more than 5.5kms from the exchange
- I do have ISDN, but it's extortionately expensive and can't really be justified over a good 56k connection.. quote:
BT-Brokenworld drop the line on their anytime service at least once every 2 hours..
Many others do the same, though my freeserve anytime is just peachy and 2 quid a month cheaper (I got chucked off BTanytime for using it too much..
Agree with comments re: Win2k - it's the most stable and (since ME superceded '98) the most widely supported. I'm disinclined from the XP upgrade because of MS's facist licensing policy and the propensity for XP to add digital rights management crap to your MP3s etc..
Stuart: If it's any consolation mate, I live in Basingstoke (close to Motorola, IBM & Sony) and I can't get any broadband cos I'm more than 5.5kms from the exchange
Well, I've been on since I got up at half 1 and the connection has dropped twice! BT have put a get out clause for them. It's in the Conditions of service or something. If you use it for more than 16 hours in any 24 hour period then your in breach and they can remove you!! Which basically means they can move the 1st and 24th hour to suit them!!
I regularly use it for 26hours+. I have had 4 e-mails in a month and pointed out to them that in 48 hours I used the Service for no more 32 hours!! That shut them up!!! 
I'm considering ISDN but I've heard that, like DSL, it's a shared line and your lucky if you get dial up standard!! I'm considering freeserve anytime because that really is anytime!!! At the moment I'm running Suse Linux, Windows 2K and ME. I have an XP cd so I might try it but it relies to much on legitimacy (is that a word?? it is now!) trying to wipe out piracy etc. They'd put me in jail within 2 minutes!!
Anyway, I'll see how it goes!!
Cheers
Stuart!
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Best download manager is Flashget, without a doubt. Anything else is just crap (I've used all others).
I've been using a "dodgy" copy of XP for ages, and I'm not in jail.
Cheers, I'll have a look for it!
My XP copy is legit! Student license coutesy of Paisley Uni! It's everything else
>> Edited by tvradict on Thursday 7th March 16:00
>> Edited by tvradict on Thursday 7th March 16:01
quote:Not true. You are guaranteed a full digital 64Kb connection per line - as opposed to dial-up's 56Kb which actually gives you a connection of about 40Kb. Comparative download speeds, roughly are: 56k Modem = 5KB per second downloads, ISDN64k = 7.5KB per second.
I'm considering ISDN but I've heard that, like DSL, it's a shared line and your lucky if you get dial up standard!!
Downside is that the extra 2K a second costs you an extra 30-odd quid a month - don't waste your money.
quote:Indeed - I have no complaints about Freeswerve though thye have just put anytime up a quid to 13.99...
I'm considering freeserve anytime because that really is anytime!!!
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quote:Not true. You are guaranteed a full digital 64Kb connection per line - as opposed to dial-up's 56Kb which actually gives you a connection of about 40Kb. Comparative download speeds, roughly are: 56k Modem = 5KB per second downloads, ISDN64k = 7.5KB per second.
I'm considering ISDN but I've heard that, like DSL, it's a shared line and your lucky if you get dial up standard!!
Downside is that the extra 2K a second costs you an extra 30-odd quid a month - don't waste your money.quote:Indeed - I have no complaints about Freeswerve though thye have just put anytime up a quid to 13.99...
I'm considering freeserve anytime because that really is anytime!!!
What about this ISDN 128K companies like to wave aruond like a big stick?? Anyone used it?? I think it's about the same price as the 64K one but is obviously faster!!!
I think I will change to Freeserve, is it a free number??? I can't afford to be paying huge phone bills, which is why I am with BT, 0800 ITS FREE!!!
or 0800 487 3733! Wishfull thinking really!!!
Problems with ISDN 128k are many fold:
i) No 'anytime' service supports them, so you have to use the 1p offpeak, 4p peak lines
ii) 128k = 2 lines = 2 x 1 or 4 p per minute
iii) Max download speed is then 17KB per sec - still only a quarter of what you get from ADSL/Cable
iv) If you have home highway (which you would) then you can no longer take phone calls until you drop one of the ISDN channels.
Summary: Bah Humbug to ISDN - it's a waste of time for internet access.
i) No 'anytime' service supports them, so you have to use the 1p offpeak, 4p peak lines
ii) 128k = 2 lines = 2 x 1 or 4 p per minute
iii) Max download speed is then 17KB per sec - still only a quarter of what you get from ADSL/Cable
iv) If you have home highway (which you would) then you can no longer take phone calls until you drop one of the ISDN channels.
Summary: Bah Humbug to ISDN - it's a waste of time for internet access.
I use freeserve anytime with a 56K modem, and this time of night it can be a bit difficult to get connected. When you do, it quite often will drop you after 2 hours (busy or not). Saying that I still think it’s the best valve for money package out there.
They also now offer broadband to existing customers at £29.99 for 24/7 connection.
Re XP, any of you whizzes out there now much about it, as I've had no end of trouble with it, since I upgraded from ME. Particularly the driver for NVIDIA 64 3D card, up to the 3rd or 4th update still can't use full acceleration on it without crashing the system, bl**dy more than annoying.
Harry
They also now offer broadband to existing customers at £29.99 for 24/7 connection.
Re XP, any of you whizzes out there now much about it, as I've had no end of trouble with it, since I upgraded from ME. Particularly the driver for NVIDIA 64 3D card, up to the 3rd or 4th update still can't use full acceleration on it without crashing the system, bl**dy more than annoying.
Harry
www.getright.com
s'quite good, you can schedule it to connect when you want, and hang up or switch the pc off when it's finished downloading.
The best thing about it is that you can resume downloads - say your computer crashes, or BT boot you off at 50% completed, you just reconnect and carry on from where you left off.
I think most 'download managers' can resume, but i've only ever used this one, as it seems to work okay.
s'quite good, you can schedule it to connect when you want, and hang up or switch the pc off when it's finished downloading.
The best thing about it is that you can resume downloads - say your computer crashes, or BT boot you off at 50% completed, you just reconnect and carry on from where you left off.
I think most 'download managers' can resume, but i've only ever used this one, as it seems to work okay.
ISDN was good, until someone invented cost effective cable!!
Anyway, i've just remembered something to do with standard BT telephone lines!
Apparently (And don't quote me on this until I confirm it tomorrow!) BT telephone lines have a line gain of 14000bps! ie Fax speed! It is possible to get BT to turn this gain up to 56000bps, 56Kmodem speed, only when that is done will you get the full dial up performance, but your modem will be connected at sometthing like 90000bps! It basically gives ISDN performance and Dial up service!! It gives a download speed of about 10k/sec!! Obviously!
I think it is possible to just phone BT and they do it over he phone!! Not sure about that one though!!!
Might be worth looking deeper into!!!
Anyway, i've just remembered something to do with standard BT telephone lines!
Apparently (And don't quote me on this until I confirm it tomorrow!) BT telephone lines have a line gain of 14000bps! ie Fax speed! It is possible to get BT to turn this gain up to 56000bps, 56Kmodem speed, only when that is done will you get the full dial up performance, but your modem will be connected at sometthing like 90000bps! It basically gives ISDN performance and Dial up service!! It gives a download speed of about 10k/sec!! Obviously!
I think it is possible to just phone BT and they do it over he phone!! Not sure about that one though!!!
Might be worth looking deeper into!!!
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ISDN was good, until someone invented cost effective cable!!
Anyway, i've just remembered something to do with standard BT telephone lines!
Apparently (And don't quote me on this until I confirm it tomorrow!) BT telephone lines have a line gain of 14000bps! ie Fax speed! It is possible to get BT to turn this gain up to 56000bps, 56Kmodem speed, only when that is done will you get the full dial up performance, but your modem will be connected at sometthing like 90000bps! It basically gives ISDN performance and Dial up service!! It gives a download speed of about 10k/sec!! Obviously!
I think it is possible to just phone BT and they do it over he phone!! Not sure about that one though!!!
Might be worth looking deeper into!!!
I thought the 'line gain' was just three stages of amplification for your line? switchable at the exchange. It can in itself improve download speeds due to fewer errors ie better signal strength less retransmissions, conversely it can reduce downloads if you have a noisy line due to noise being amplified and more errors being detected because of it?
Then again I may be talking out of my a*se.
Harry
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I thought the 'line gain' was just three stages of amplification for your line? switchable at the exchange. It can in itself improve download speeds due to fewer errors ie better signal strength less retransmissions, conversely it can reduce downloads if you have a noisy line due to noise being amplified and more errors being detected because of it?
Then again I may be talking out of my a*se.
Hmmm, what you hae just said about the noise sounds familiar. I think thats why some people have better speeds than others. The higher the gain, the more errors on noisy lines!
Anyway, I'll have a chat with this BT Engineer mate of mine tomorrow and see what he says!!!
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Re XP, any of you whizzes out there now much about it, as I've had no end of trouble with it, since I upgraded from ME. Particularly the driver for NVIDIA 64 3D card, up to the 3rd or 4th update still can't use full acceleration on it
You won't like the answer. FDISK ME and do a complete reload with XP and use (1)The Nvidia driver that comes with XP or (2)The reference "detonator" driver from NVIDIA. MS does not even recommend an "upgrade" path because of all of the changes that XP brings...
By the way - you can turn off digital license management in XP. It's an option under media player. I have no problems carrying my digital media files wherever I go... in my car for example (<-
there I've just made this post relevant to the website!) ErnestM
Download accelerator will do the job
www.speedbit.com/
Other wise, mail me the url stuart, and I'll download it, put it on a cd and mail it to you
Service with a smile at pistonheads.com
>> Edited by RobM on Thursday 7th March 23:41
www.speedbit.com/
Other wise, mail me the url stuart, and I'll download it, put it on a cd and mail it to you
Service with a smile at pistonheads.com
>> Edited by RobM on Thursday 7th March 23:41
It's bloody awesome!! I've just worked out how it's done!!
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