Black box flight recorder for cars
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Reading the TV schedule for tonight BBC1 7pm - "Best Inventions". Summary says that somebody who has invented a black box recorder for cars will be on the show.
Just thought the PH mob might want to watch that.
I have this dreading feeling that we'll all be driving round with a tell tale spy onboard for the cops to access when they like.
I'll reserve judgement until tonight.
Just thought the PH mob might want to watch that.
I have this dreading feeling that we'll all be driving round with a tell tale spy onboard for the cops to access when they like.
I'll reserve judgement until tonight.
mondeoman - good call.
Did you also hear about the idea of fitting to all new cars a gps system to keep a check on everyones speed, 24-7 wherever you are. Imagine feeling like a cheecky little blast at 4am on a deserted road. Hey presto, a court appearance pops through the door! All thanks to those lovely satellites.
Did you also hear about the idea of fitting to all new cars a gps system to keep a check on everyones speed, 24-7 wherever you are. Imagine feeling like a cheecky little blast at 4am on a deserted road. Hey presto, a court appearance pops through the door! All thanks to those lovely satellites.
Car Rental Companies in the US tried this last year:
www.mvcf.com/news/cache/00400/
Remarkably, the government sided with the consumer and found that this sort of tripe was an invasion of privacy...
The reason why this is important in the US, is because this can now be drawn on as "case law" if the govenrment ever tries to do the same thing...
ErnestM
www.mvcf.com/news/cache/00400/
Remarkably, the government sided with the consumer and found that this sort of tripe was an invasion of privacy...
The reason why this is important in the US, is because this can now be drawn on as "case law" if the govenrment ever tries to do the same thing...
ErnestM
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The new elise has a gizmo on board to tell the engineers how much stick the engine has taken! Shows up amount of revs used etc. How long before all cars have this and it becomes mandatory to have max speeds etc downloaded at mot time - ready to pay fines and penalties!
Just tell them it was on a track day.
The other option of modifying the data sounds like fun, how would they react if the readout showed you sustained 300mph for three hours
Paul
As soon as Tony.. sorry, the elected mob say so it will happen and just you be glad they are looking out for you and stop you doing anything that might hurt you or excite you 
Now then, where's them plans for limiters on electric wheel chairs...
>> Edited by JMorgan on Thursday 7th March 10:08
Now then, where's them plans for limiters on electric wheel chairs...
>> Edited by JMorgan on Thursday 7th March 10:08
I saw most of that feature and I have to say that it looked pretty cool. IIRC The only data it records is the last 30 seconds of images to the front and rear of your car and stops updating them as soon as it detects an impact that might be strong enough to set off an airbag.
I have mixed feelings about how good/bad this is, but it certainly aint as bad as a black box recording all the data of all your journeys or a gps system that knows when you're speeding etc.
On the plus side, if you were involved in an accident that wasn't your fault, you'd have very good evidence to back it up. I think this would be A Good Thing for most people on this board as we seem to understand how to read the roads and apply appropriate speed for the road conditions.
I'd want a little "destroy evidence" button in case it recorded an accident that WAS my fault though!
Bonce
I have mixed feelings about how good/bad this is, but it certainly aint as bad as a black box recording all the data of all your journeys or a gps system that knows when you're speeding etc.
On the plus side, if you were involved in an accident that wasn't your fault, you'd have very good evidence to back it up. I think this would be A Good Thing for most people on this board as we seem to understand how to read the roads and apply appropriate speed for the road conditions.
I'd want a little "destroy evidence" button in case it recorded an accident that WAS my fault though!
Bonce
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Will it record the antics of the muppets that cut you up, don't indicate, run their shopping trolley into you in the car park et cetera??? Perhaps it could be programmed to automatically send them a bill??
(Link up with any other thread.......)
Don't be ridiculous - that's just bad driving. We all know it's speed that kills - the government says so.
Given most Tuscan's speedos habits of doing windscreen-wiper impressions, I would be unsurprised if Blackpool had already had a rather large number of 200mph+ downloads......
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Just tell them it was on a track day.
The other option of modifying the data sounds like fun, how would they react if the readout showed you sustained 300mph for three hours
Paul
We’ve had these boxes fitted to the car I drive at work for about 12 months now. It records everything a number of times a second. When I say everything, I mean everything; speed, suspension load, braking force, throttle position, lights illuminated and any sudden impacts etc etc...
Apparently, in the event of a collision it will hold in its memory the cars movements 30 secs prior to and 15 secs after any incident. It also beeps constantly when I get above 120mph. It can store 15 blocks (or incidents)of this information before the data needs downloading.
But there is light at the end of the tunnel. I've taken the car to be downloaded a number of times. Not once could they get the recorded info from the black box...
Apparently, in the event of a collision it will hold in its memory the cars movements 30 secs prior to and 15 secs after any incident. It also beeps constantly when I get above 120mph. It can store 15 blocks (or incidents)of this information before the data needs downloading.
But there is light at the end of the tunnel. I've taken the car to be downloaded a number of times. Not once could they get the recorded info from the black box...
the GPS systems aren't any more big brotherish than any other system, as they don't broadcast back to the satellite. its only the gear on board your car that knows what you're up to, which isn't materially different to recording from a speed sensor.
One thing intrigues me ... with all the nav systems coming out that rely on GPS, has the US dept of defence ever given an indication that they will maintain the satellite system for the forseeable future?? Must cost them a small fortune to maintain and they don't get any benefit (rather the opposite) for making it publicly available.
One thing intrigues me ... with all the nav systems coming out that rely on GPS, has the US dept of defence ever given an indication that they will maintain the satellite system for the forseeable future?? Must cost them a small fortune to maintain and they don't get any benefit (rather the opposite) for making it publicly available.
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