Cooper S sounding like a Diesel
Cooper S sounding like a Diesel
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98C4S

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2,935 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Hi All,

Girlfriends Cooper S (SC) has developed a rattling sound from the engine that makes it sound like a diesel. It is intermittent, the fan also comes on for longer and more often.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks


kambites

69,722 posts

237 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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When my Corrado developed a dieselesque rattle, it was because the cam belt pretensioner had failed. Didn't make the fan do anything different though, from what I remember.

hman

7,497 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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98C4S said:
Hi All,

Girlfriends Cooper S (SC) has developed a rattling sound from the engine that makes it sound like a diesel. It is intermittent, the fan also comes on for longer and more often.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
not on that amount of info!

Is the power affected, are there any warning lights on, what are the fluid levels and condition of fluids like, does it drive the same, when did it start?

etc.


could be anything from water or oil pump disintegrating casuing overheating, to big ends on their way out ( although who thats making the fan come on for longer is a mystery.

on the flip side it could be the pas pump or the air con pump rattling.


perhaps you should pop it along to a garage for a little look over, or call the AA.

or do a google search on it.

Plenty there for you to be getting on with.

98C4S

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Thursday 16th July 2009
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Sorry - should have been more specific

Has been happening for 3 days, no loss of power, doesnt feel any different to drive. No warning lights at all. When the rattling noise goes, it sounds normal.

Mrs took it to BMW on Tuesday, they said it sounds like Clutch, which I thought was way off the mark, No slippage, no burning, doesnt slip out of gear, goes in to gear easily.

Ive been on the Mini Forums, not much on there.. someone had similar charactics, but he described the noise as different, his was a water pump.

Shropshiremike

23,908 posts

219 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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98C4S said:
Sorry - should have been more specific

Has been happening for 3 days, no loss of power, doesnt feel any different to drive. No warning lights at all. When the rattling noise goes, it sounds normal.

Mrs took it to BMW on Tuesday, they said it sounds like Clutch, which I thought was way off the mark, No slippage, no burning, doesnt slip out of gear, goes in to gear easily.

Ive been on the Mini Forums, not much on there.. someone had similar charactics, but he described the noise as different, his was a water pump.
Does the noise go when you dip the clutch?

98C4S

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Thursday 16th July 2009
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Shropshiremike said:
98C4S said:
Sorry - should have been more specific

Has been happening for 3 days, no loss of power, doesnt feel any different to drive. No warning lights at all. When the rattling noise goes, it sounds normal.

Mrs took it to BMW on Tuesday, they said it sounds like Clutch, which I thought was way off the mark, No slippage, no burning, doesnt slip out of gear, goes in to gear easily.

Ive been on the Mini Forums, not much on there.. someone had similar charactics, but he described the noise as different, his was a water pump.
Does the noise go when you dip the clutch?
No, the noise has no association with the clutch, it comes and goes randomly

DPX

1,027 posts

216 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Is the rattle there when car is stopped or is it only when car is moving

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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It will be that dated Chrysler POS engine it has in it. If you push the clutch and and let it out quickly does it do it then? If so its the crap tollerances of the drive train and nothing can be done.

98C4S

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Thursday 16th July 2009
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DPX said:
Is the rattle there when car is stopped or is it only when car is moving
sometimes there when stopped, sometimes not.

Sometimes when driving, but as you get faster, its harder to notice (engine noise/wind noise etc)

98C4S

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UncappedTag said:
It will be that dated Chrysler POS engine it has in it. If you push the clutch and and let it out quickly does it do it then? If so its the crap tollerances of the drive train and nothing can be done.
It didnt happen a week ago, its a new noise. Car has sounded perfect otherwise (Since ownership 18months)

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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98C4S said:
UncappedTag said:
It will be that dated Chrysler POS engine it has in it. If you push the clutch and and let it out quickly does it do it then? If so its the crap tollerances of the drive train and nothing can be done.
It didnt happen a week ago, its a new noise. Car has sounded perfect otherwise (Since ownership 18months)
Try what I said and report back

98C4S

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Thursday 16th July 2009
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UncappedTag said:
98C4S said:
UncappedTag said:
It will be that dated Chrysler POS engine it has in it. If you push the clutch and and let it out quickly does it do it then? If so its the crap tollerances of the drive train and nothing can be done.
It didnt happen a week ago, its a new noise. Car has sounded perfect otherwise (Since ownership 18months)
Try what I said and report back
Just did it that, went round the block - came off the clutch quickly, and did it from the word go.

Nothing untoward

Alex_MCS

2,833 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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UncappedTag said:
It will be that dated Chrysler POS engine it has in it.
Ah yes the POS engine which won an international engine of the year award and is actually a pretty good engine? tongue out

Edited by Alex_MCS on Thursday 16th July 20:30

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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98C4S said:
UncappedTag said:
98C4S said:
UncappedTag said:
It will be that dated Chrysler POS engine it has in it. If you push the clutch and and let it out quickly does it do it then? If so its the crap tollerances of the drive train and nothing can be done.
It didnt happen a week ago, its a new noise. Car has sounded perfect otherwise (Since ownership 18months)
Try what I said and report back
Just did it that, went round the block - came off the clutch quickly, and did it from the word go.

Nothing untoward
Hmm unsure then. reason I say is I had the same rattling noise and diagnosed as clutch. I had the clutch, flywheel & gearbox replaced and it still did it. Sold it in the end after 6 months as BMW had it more than me frown

Cornish Delight

97 posts

193 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Hi,

If no warning lights are on it sounds like the exhaust to me!

Get someone to sit in the car & rev it up then look underneath to see if your exhaust has any holes, but I'd put a £10 that it's the exhaust manifold where it matches up to the engine block, when the engine is revving put your hand over the exhaust manifold (obviously don't touch it as it will be hot) & see if you can see / feel emissions escaping, sounds like it needs a new manifold gaskit (cheap job).

Good luck, regards: Michael

JCWStevey

226 posts

209 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Whereabouts in the engine bay is it coming from? I have read those symptons before and people had the Timing Chain tensioners replaced. If the rattle comes from the top-left of the engine (as you look at it, so the supercharger side) it might be worth thinking about that.

However, because there is so much conflicting advice out on the forums, your best bet would be to get it to a garage I think. I'm starting to take any advice on MINI forums with a pinch of salt now to be honest.

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

201 months

Friday 17th July 2009
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Alex_MCS said:
UncappedTag said:
It will be that dated Chrysler POS engine it has in it.
Ah yes the POS engine which won an international engine of the year award and is actually a pretty good engine? tongue out

Edited by Alex_MCS on Thursday 16th July 20:30
Where you read this?

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

201 months

Friday 17th July 2009
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Alex_MCS said:
UncappedTag said:
It will be that dated Chrysler POS engine it has in it.
Ah yes the POS engine which won an international engine of the year award and is actually a pretty good engine? tongue out

Edited by Alex_MCS on Thursday 16th July 20:30
On the merit that it had a supercharger bolted to it, not the basic engine? wink

Shropshiremike

23,908 posts

219 months

Friday 17th July 2009
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UncappedTag said:
Alex_MCS said:
UncappedTag said:
It will be that dated Chrysler POS engine it has in it.
Ah yes the POS engine which won an international engine of the year award and is actually a pretty good engine? tongue out

Edited by Alex_MCS on Thursday 16th July 20:30
Where you read this?
The supercharged Tritec version won the 1.4L to 1.8L category for 2003