Bespoke wooden conservatories..any good joiner can do?
Bespoke wooden conservatories..any good joiner can do?
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Brown and Boris

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Saturday 4th July 2009
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About 2 years ago I had a quote to supply and install a nice wooden 'lean to' type conservatory in a gap between two walls at the back of my house (so just one wall and a roof).

It required the removal of part of the existing pantile roof and wooden door/window frame and the installaation of a front glazed wall and roof in place. It was about 3 meters wide, 3 meters deep, and was to have single manually operated roof vent for temperature control and an exterior glazed door. No electrics (lights already in the existing walls) and no foundations as it was going directly onto the existing base. Tricky bit was joining the new glass roof up to the remainder of the pantile roof over the kitchen on the one side. I got a quote fro Amdega (of glossy mag fame) who wanted £15K, and £13 if I had it done in the winter. I gave up on the idea!

Few weeks ago I had an old joiner doing some work and I was telling him about the quote. Obviously we both laughed at the Amdega quote but his ball park figure to create the bespoke conservatory from scratch was around £2.5 to 3k. Most of his business is making and installing window frames so I have no doubt he can build the wooden DG units, less sure about installation.

So, is this the type of work a decent joiner could do or would it really require a roofer or general builder to handle the joint between the glass and the pantile roof?

I could remove the whole pantile roof and get him to carry the conservatory roof over the kitchen and make a proper job of it.

Anybody know if this requires planning/building regs or conservatio area consent ( we are in a conservation area)?

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Edited by Brown and Boris on Saturday 4th July 21:02

mas99

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200 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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I'm fairly sure that you'll need planning in a conservation area.

Plus you will need building regs if you go over the kitchen, because you are then not just doing a conservatory but a roof and you'll come into the insulation, etc stuff as well.

£2.5 doesnt sound very much but I'm not sure how big you mean. But knowing that oak comes in around £50 - £60/cubic foot (or at least it does round here) and the dg units will soon add up with the installation.

I would ring your local planing dept or even go in with some photo's and sketches. They'll tell you if what you can do without permission and may give hints as to what would or would not be allowed.

Brown and Boris

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Sunday 5th July 2009
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mas99 said:
I'm fairly sure that you'll need planning in a conservation area.

Plus you will need building regs if you go over the kitchen, because you are then not just doing a conservatory but a roof and you'll come into the insulation, etc stuff as well.

£2.5 doesnt sound very much but I'm not sure how big you mean. But knowing that oak comes in around £50 - £60/cubic foot (or at least it does round here) and the dg units will soon add up with the installation.

I would ring your local planing dept or even go in with some photo's and sketches. They'll tell you if what you can do without permission and may give hints as to what would or would not be allowed.
I will ring conservation/listings guy at the council. The porch is a 1960's add on so I don't think he will object. He gave me permission to render the outside gable by email last time with a few pics.

I can imagine getting the insulation right on a glass roof could be expensive.

Simpo Two

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Sunday 5th July 2009
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In the top photo there's ghost wearing a Tudor costume...

Brown and Boris

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Simpo Two said:
In the top photo there's ghost wearing a Tudor costume...
Sure it isn't a reflection of a fat bloke with a camera?

Simpo Two

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Sunday 5th July 2009
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Brown and Boris said:
Sure it isn't a reflection of a fat bloke with a camera?
Looks like a thinner version of this!


Brown and Boris

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Sunday 5th July 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Brown and Boris said:
Sure it isn't a reflection of a fat bloke with a camera?
Looks like a thinner version of this!

Are youb sure it isn't just the way the curatins hand down? These puics were talen about 5 years ago just after me moved in and it had 'swag' type hangy down things.


Simpo Two

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Sunday 5th July 2009
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Damn, I just enhanced it in Photoshop and it's not Cardinal Sinn of the All-Star Vatican Beat Combo, but a reflection of a fat bloke with a camera frown

Brown and Boris

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Sunday 5th July 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Damn, I just enhanced it in Photoshop and it's not Cardinal Sinn of the All-Star Vatican Beat Combo, but a reflection of a fat bloke with a camera frown
I resemble that remark!