M5 - Got a puncture - and no spare - what to do
M5 - Got a puncture - and no spare - what to do
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Neil.D

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2,878 posts

229 months

Saturday 20th June 2009
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Hi Guys.

I got a big nail stuffed into my nearly new Eagle F1 today. No worries I thought, I was only a mile from a tyre fitters so I unloaded my can of tyre weld into the flatty. It did exactly what it said and repaired the tyre enough to be babied to the fitters.

Once off it became apparant that in the 150 meters or so it took me to find a safe stopping place I have destroyed the inside of the sidewall by driving slowly on a flat. Thus the brand new F1 is ruined. Hey ho, such is life.

Now, all my local suppliers are out of F1 275/35/18's so I have a different make on there until I can get one.

Bearing in mind the tyres were nearly new and the tread is about 7.5mm remaining, what is the tolerances for rear tyres? I know I will be OK but I thought it was if rears, with our LSD's are any more than 2mm in tread difference you had to replace them in paris, correct?

Secondly, Im thinking of buying a cheap BMW wheel to keep in the boot as a spare. If I were in the middle of Europe I would have been totally stuffed!

Does anyone know the size and offset that will fit and be compatible with our cars ? ?

Regards,

Neil


Edited by Neil.D on Saturday 20th June 22:23

m30dus

553 posts

208 months

Saturday 20th June 2009
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Neil.D said:
Hi Guys.

I got a big nail stuffed into my nearly new Eagle F1 today. No worries I thought, I was only a mile from a tyre fitters so I unloaded my can of tyre weld into the flatty. It did exactly what it said and repaired the tyre enough to be babied to the fitters.

Once off it became apparant that in the 150 meters or so it took me to find a safe stopping place I have destroyed the inside of the sidewall by driving slowly on a flat. Thus the brand new F1 is ruined. Hey ho, such is life.

Now, all my local suppliers are out of F1's our size so I have a different make on there until I can get one.

Bearing in mind the tyres were nearly new and the tread is about 7.5mm remaining, what is the tolerances for rear tyres? I know I will be OK but I thought with rears and LSD's, any more than 2mm in tread difference you had to replace them in paris, correct?

Secondly, Im thinking of buying a cheap BMW wheel to keep in the boot as a spare. If I were in the middle of Europe I would have been totally stuffed!

Does anyone know the size and offset that will fit and be compatible with the car. Its got to big enough to fit over the (inadequate) brakes.

Regards,

Neil


Edited by Neil.D on Saturday 20th June 22:24
I understand that deploying the tyre foam rules out any chances of being able to repair the tyre I'm afraid. If you manage to get into a tyre place without it (slow puncture) as long as the offending hole is in the centre of the tread it can generally be repaired. If it's in or anywhere close to the sidewall it's a big no no.

Generally I've been fairly lucky and only picked them up when the tyres are best part done for and in fairness I don't think I would find much comfort in a kwick fit repaired tyre when stretching it's legs!

Edited by m30dus on Saturday 20th June 22:37

Neil.D

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2,878 posts

229 months

Sunday 21st June 2009
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Hi,

Yes I was told the same as you. As long as the hole isn't on the inner or outer edge it can be repaired.
Nothing was mentioned about the tyreweld making a repair impossible. The were going to wash it out and put the plug repair in. It was only when they removed the tyre and saw the shavings from the sidewall, eroded by the rim did they mention there was a problem.

I felt the same as you about repairs. However, I had one done and did countless top speed runs without issue. The plug is coated with an agent that melts the rubber slightly, effectivley creating a seamless join.

MarkwG

5,833 posts

212 months

Sunday 21st June 2009
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"Secondly, Im thinking of buying a cheap BMW wheel to keep in the boot as a spare." - hi Neil; I'd check the local scrappys for a 520 or similar & nab one of those. It'll act as a "spacesaver". Not sure what size the wheel well of an M5 is, but my B10 has a front full size spare & it's a 19", so subject there being nothing else in there I guess you'd be OK. I'm running my old M3 on the spare at the back, which is a front in size terms & it feels OK in the dry.

M5Dave

829 posts

232 months

Sunday 21st June 2009
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The 17 inch wheels from the E39 sport models are the BMW approved winter wheels for the E39 M5, so if you can find one of these at a breakers it should fit no problem.

E38

735 posts

236 months

Sunday 21st June 2009
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If you take out the pump and its polystyrene housing etc, can you actually fit a small spare wheel in the boot? Cant be bothered to look, but surely the battery takes up too much of the space?

Neil.D

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2,878 posts

229 months

Sunday 21st June 2009
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M5Dave said:
The 17 inch wheels from the E39 sport models are the BMW approved winter wheels for the E39 M5, so if you can find one of these at a breakers it should fit no problem.
Hi Dave.

Yes that would probably be ideal. I was wondering if it would fit over the brakes.
What width etc would I need for correct rolling rotations etc?

nicky284

14 posts

207 months

Sunday 21st June 2009
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hi neil i don't know where you are but if you local to me i have an m5 f1 you can have i think its about 4-5mm tread on it, no damage, its just a good one left over from when i had 2 new rears put on. all it will cost you is a run up the road in your car, you driving obviously, so i can compare mine.

TimR69

2,153 posts

250 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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If you get a spare wheel I believe it'll have to actually sit in the boot as the spare wheel well was modofied on the M5 to route the exhaust.

MrFlibbles

7,774 posts

306 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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Neil.D said:
Bearing in mind the tyres were nearly new and the tread is about 7.5mm remaining, what is the tolerances for rear tyres? I know I will be OK but I thought it was if rears, with our LSD's are any more than 2mm in tread difference you had to replace them in paris, correct?
Getting them replaced near Southampton should be fine!

Neil.D

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2,878 posts

229 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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nicky284 said:
hi neil i don't know where you are but if you local to me i have an m5 f1 you can have i think its about 4-5mm tread on it, no damage, its just a good one left over from when i had 2 new rears put on. all it will cost you is a run up the road in your car, you driving obviously, so i can compare mine.
Hi,

a very kind offer but the tyres are nealry new so I think a part worn one with a new one would be outside the tolerances for an LSD, but thanks.

Neil

Neil.D

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2,878 posts

229 months

Monday 22nd June 2009
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TimR69 said:
If you get a spare wheel I believe it'll have to actually sit in the boot as the spare wheel well was modofied on the M5 to route the exhaust.
yes thats the idea. The exhaust is too big to allow for a spare and the brakes are too big for a space saver.

contracttor

922 posts

208 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Personally I wouldn't think twice about calling recovery and getting a tow to a tyre repair place. Given the cost of a new tyre...