Grrrrrrrrrrrr .......een.. makes me see red.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr .......een.. makes me see red.

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hertsbiker

Original Poster:

6,358 posts

277 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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Vomit inducing!

Please go and vote. Actually you may find lotsa shite here that you want to read. Know your enemy..


www.foe.co.uk/campaigns/transport/


rgds, Carl

mattjbatch

1,502 posts

277 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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75% in favour of tax cut so far

ap_smith

1,997 posts

272 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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Fantastic. 76% now. I love it when the tree huggers' smug self congratulatory PR backfires right into their lentil soup.

Brilliant.



anonymous-user

60 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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and there doesnt seem to be a problem voting again and again and again and again and again and again and oh you get the idea

ZZR600

15,605 posts

274 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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What a sad bunch of creatins
the success story transport secretary says no new roads AARRRGGHHH what are they worried about less trees to hug ? i think im right in saying cars do the least enviromental damage ?
Ive gone onto the site under "stealth" to rack up the less tax on fuel

ErnestM

11,621 posts

273 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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I just voted for less fuel tax, from the US. Glad to help...

ErnestM

nonegreen

7,803 posts

276 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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I just changed the name of my favourites folder from greenshite to vomit

Dave_H

996 posts

289 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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Grrr... 77.02% now!

For every tree that gets cut down, two get planted, right? so why arnt these beardies out there busy hugging them instead of wasting web space.

Someone on the 4Car website posted this site up this morning as well.

octane junkie

244 posts

274 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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Love the pun, Carl - know your enemy, visit www.foe....

If they were to follow their own doctrine, then fuel tax cuts would help the lower paid to buy better, less polluting cars, inducing fewer accidents and thereby helping the poor, socially excluded transportationally challenged of Bradford - and no doubt other areas - to overcome their problems. (see www.foe.co.uk/resource/reports/env_justice_bradford.pdf )

Actually I think it's a slur on Bradford's good name....

Also, check the size of the downloadable .pdf file entitled "Who runs our Railways"....

>> Edited by octane junkie on Thursday 28th February 18:30

nonegreen

7,803 posts

276 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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Apart from voting several times if you follow the link to "urge the chancellor not to cut fuel tax" you can alter their letter to say whatever you want. It didn't go through my outlook so I guess there is a fair chance they might just vet them but you never know the numpties probably can't believe anyone would be so irresponsible. Here is what I sent

I am writing to ask to you to make cuts in the fuel tax.

I believe there are strong environmental reasons for reducing the fuel tax.

Climate change is the biggest load of nonsense that we face today and to tackle the problem we need to reduce the ammount of attention paid to stupid green activists. The fuel tax helps to wreck our economy because it discourages necessary car journeys and encourages the use cheap foreign imports. Cutting fuel tax encourages people to drive more, which is very productive in economic terms.

For these reasons I urge you to cut the fuel tax.

HarryW

15,255 posts

275 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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That's 77.12% now for fuel tax cuts
Do you think they'll now campaign for the tax cuts? given that their own survey points to it? Or will it go the same way as the other 98% of statistics that doesn't fall into line with their agenda and be ignored

Harry

hertsbiker

Original Poster:

6,358 posts

277 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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Doh ! I'd love to say it was me being clever, but that was unintentional !!!

Thanks for voting chaps!

C

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

275 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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My contribution to this arguement :-

'I am writing to ask to you to make cuts in the fuel tax.

I believe there are strong environmental reasons for reducing the fuel tax.

Climate change is not an environmental threat as the CO2 levels have been much greater in the past and CO2 helps plant growth - A positive feedback system therfore the more CO2 the more plants grow. A lower fuel tax helps to achieve this aim because it encourages the use of public tranport and the use of larger engined cars. These are more efficient as they do not operate at the limit of power and thus throw out more NOX ( A real poison to all living things). Cutting fuel tax encourages people to drive more, which helps vegatative growth.

For these reasons I urge you to cut the fuel tax.

Support our farmers grow more food and drive more.

(PH for Farmers)'

Dave_H

996 posts

289 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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I'm all for the burn fuel and smile cause - I really am!! and I did vote to lower fuel tax on that site.

But these numpties will just ignore the results and there will be yet another salad eating noncy vote website thing in a few weeks

Question is: How do we start to get our point across?

nonegreen

7,803 posts

276 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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Top man Bob

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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I love the way that foe page says "Visually impaired users can get extra help with these documents from.. " in the tiniest typeface they can muster

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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Here goes...

quote:
I am writing to ask to you to make cuts in the fuel tax.

I believe there are sound environmental, social and economic reasons for ignoring demands to maintain and increase fuel tax.

Climate change is fundamental to the nature of the planet - has been since long before we arrived, will be long after we perish.

It is said that motoring contributes to 25% of all man-made carbon dioxide emissions. However, it is also said that man-made emissions contribute in the region of 2.5% to the amount of greenhouse gases in our environment.

One volcanic eruption is capable of emitting more greenhouse gases than all of the cars on the planet in a year.

So, motoring accounts for 0.625% of the overall makeup of gases contributing to the 'greenhouse effect' without which the planet would be largely uninhabitable, being considerably colder.

Of couse, carbon-dioxide is not the only greenhouse gas, in fact it's not even the most abundant. Methane takes that honour - a gas produced by living matter in great quantities.

The biggest threat that we face today is the throttling of the economy by a faction determined to regulate, restrict and prohibit at every turn, enforcing restricion of free movement on the basis of a highly speculative if not entirely specious environmental argument.

The high fuel tax restricts the ability of British businesses to respond to the competition from other EU countries with whom we have free trade. Further, high fuel tax contributes to the significant financial burden on every car owning member of the public at a time when vast tracts of the country are practically inaccessible by public transport.

For these reasons I urge you to cut the fuel tax.

Finally, I'd like to thank the Friends of the Earth website for providing a platform for me to air my views.

hertsbiker

Original Poster:

6,358 posts

277 months

Thursday 28th February 2002
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you guys!

octane junkie

244 posts

274 months

Friday 1st March 2002
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Vote Carzee for Prime Minister!!!!

steve harrison

461 posts

273 months

Friday 1st March 2002
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Suitably worded email sent and a few votes lodged.

(Daft tree-hugging b******s)