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rasputin

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1,449 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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May be going to an Airshow soon.

Would like to try and get some good shots with my Sony A300 (kit lense only).

Any tips for aerial shots? I would guess long zoom, with the quickest shutter and least wide aperture that the weather allows...?

350Wedge

2,364 posts

303 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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rasputin said:
May be going to an Airshow soon.

Would like to try and get some good shots with my Sony A300 (kit lense only).

Any tips for aerial shots? I would guess long zoom, with the quickest shutter and least wide aperture that the weather allows...?
A general tip from me, if you're shooting Jets then open up your aperture as wide as it will allow, F5.6 or similar. If you're shooting Props such as warbirds I'd recommend going into shutter priority and using a max speed of 1/320 of a sec (but try slower speeds too). Much more than this and you'll freeze the props.

Also get as much panning practice you can. Try and aim for a nice smooth side to side action and squeeze gently on the shutter button as you move.

If you have one, a 300mm lens will be ideal and with the 1.5x crop from your sensor this should equal 450mm in film terms

jon-

16,534 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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You've in body IS, that might need to be disabled if you're having to pan with the aircraft.

As the kit lens doesn't shoot longer than 50mm my first advice would be rent a lens. You'll get nothing useful of anything in the air at that range.

Last airshow I was at some one was shooting with a 500mm f/4 prime. I hate to think what that cost eek

rasputin

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Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Just the 18-70mm kit lens.

No funds at the moment for new lenses or even hire.

Was hoping to get something at least a bit recognisable at 70mm...?

350Wedge

2,364 posts

303 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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rasputin said:
Just the 18-70mm kit lens.

No funds at the moment for new lenses or even hire.

Was hoping to get something at least a bit recognisable at 70mm...?
I think you will really struggle to get anything of reasonable size unless things like Airbus A380's are flying. For small aircraft such as Spitfires, other than the outline not much chance of anything decent i'm afraid.

Do you know anyone else that has either a Sony (or old Minolta a/f) lens that you could borrow for the day?

Edited to ask, which airshow were you attending??

Edited by 350Wedge on Wednesday 3rd June 17:31

rasputin

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236 months

Thursday 4th June 2009
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The Perth Airshow.

When I heard about it I thought it must be paper aeroplanes to fit in Perth airport biggrin. But apparently there are some proper ones smile

Not sure if I'll be able to make it though...

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th June 2009
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Even my old 400 prime was only useful at display line - anything further away was a waste of time.

Forgot about that show though - tempted to pop up, but I've only got a 50mm these days and it's a bit late to rent a lens from anyone other than Calumet (who ask for a full-value deposit irked )

Hmm...

Edited by Famous Graham on Thursday 4th June 12:58

Col 666

1,078 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th June 2009
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I live in Perth and didnt even know there was an airshow! Might pop along with my son for a bit if this weather holds.

Dogsey

4,301 posts

260 months

Thursday 4th June 2009
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While we're on the subject of air shows ... anyone from here going to the Biggin Hill one at the end of the month? I'll be there on the Saturday.

350Wedge

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303 months

Thursday 4th June 2009
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Dogsey said:
While we're on the subject of air shows ... anyone from here going to the Biggin Hill one at the end of the month? I'll be there on the Saturday.
I may be there but I'm moving at the end of June as well so cant say for sure...

rasputin

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Saturday 6th June 2009
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Got some nice pictures. Around 1400 taken in total, got through about half of them so far and there are way too many that I like... Need a new hard drive hehe










hman

7,497 posts

224 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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That spit looks fake, something about its size and the air intake above the spinner...

Col 666

1,078 posts

243 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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A few of mine-

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Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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It's a great feeling when you nail a Dead Sparrow crossover with both in the frame, isn't it biggrin

rasputin

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Saturday 6th June 2009
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Col 666 said:
Might pop along with my son for a bit if this weather holds.
Ah! It's just clicked...

"with my son"
"Occupation: Photographer"

You'll have been the guy with the son and a lens the size of my arm!

The one I was standing behind for ages because you were sitting and I could get pictures over your head rofl

Edited by rasputin on Saturday 6th June 22:06

Col 666

1,078 posts

243 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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rasputin said:
Col 666 said:
Might pop along with my son for a bit if this weather holds.
Ah! It's just clicked...

"with my son"
"Occupation: Photographer"

You'll have been the guy with the son and a lens the size of my arm!

The one I was standing behind for ages because you were sitting and I could get pictures over your head rofl

Edited by rasputin on Saturday 6th June 22:06
Dont think that was me! I was using a 300mm so not too big! I had a black baseball cap on and a 6 year old stamping on my feet as he was cold and bored!

Taffer

2,356 posts

227 months

Sunday 7th June 2009
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hman said:
That spit looks fake, something about its size and the air intake above the spinner...
It's a Mk26 Spit - a modern scale replica kit using the Supermarine name.

http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/About.htm

rasputin

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Sunday 7th June 2009
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Famous Graham said:
It's a great feeling when you nail a Dead Sparrow crossover with both in the frame, isn't it biggrin
It might be... What's a Dead Sparrow crossover?? boxedin

Col666 (or anyone), any tips for the next time on how to improve?

My photos aren't the sharpest at full-size, but look ok when reduced a little - is that just normal for a cheap lens at full zoom? Or was some other setting/hand-shake at fault? Shutter speed for most was 1/400 or faster and IS switched off.

I'm glad I had exposure bracketing on - my chosen exposure settings looked good on the camera's display, but on the computer only the "overexposed" ones looked right.

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Sunday 7th June 2009
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rasputin said:
Famous Graham said:
It's a great feeling when you nail a Dead Sparrow crossover with both in the frame, isn't it biggrin
It might be... What's a Dead Sparrow crossover?? boxedin
Red Arrow gypsy pass wink

Red Arrow = Dead Sparrow.

You're right to turn off IS if you're panning horizontally and the IS on that lens has a panning mode. Otherwise, leave it on.

Turn on AI Servo on your body's AF mechanism - you can then prefocus on an approaching plane and keep the button half pressed as it approaches and it'll keep focus lock on that plane. Eats up the battery but worth it for those shots.

Edited by Famous Graham on Sunday 7th June 20:26

Furyous

25,737 posts

251 months

Sunday 7th June 2009
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This was taken with my 18/70 kit lens as I was actually in the pits doing static stuff when the display took place.

Is a big crop and gives some idea of what you may achive without longer glass.