Question for the religious folk
Question for the religious folk
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Mobsta

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5,614 posts

276 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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The majority of people believe in an afterlife and a soul or spirit body vehicle made of light, which transcends death.

What happens to your soul if you get too close to a black hole?
Can God, who is made of light, pull you out again?
Discuss.

Adenauer

18,936 posts

257 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Mobsta said:
Discuss.
ranting

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

231 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Adenauer said:
Mobsta said:
Discuss.
ranting
suck it down

hehe

The Fly Fisher

205 posts

209 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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I wouldn't have thought Pistonheads is a site regularly visited by the God Squad.

ewenm

28,506 posts

266 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Which religions believe a soul is made of light?

Neil_H

15,407 posts

272 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Mobsta said:
The majority of people believe in an afterlife and a soul or spirit body vehicle made of light, which transcends death.
If it was made of light it would be visible would it not?

Who are these people? Name some of them.

Nobody You Know

8,422 posts

214 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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When you die you are just a corpse, the idea of an afterlife is ridiculous and damaging to the human race...

Mobsta

Original Poster:

5,614 posts

276 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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The Fly Fisher said:
I wouldn't have thought Pistonheads is a site regularly visited by the God Squad.
There is a good cross section of readers here, from all walks of life. IIRC UK surveys report that even here, the majority believe in life after death. Correct me if I'm wrong of course...

ewenm said:
Which religions believe a soul is made of light?
A good question. Aren't the celestial beings/figureheads/etc supposed to emit light, in most religions?

mmm-five

12,009 posts

305 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Maybe black holes are the gateway to the afterlife. After all, how many 'near death experiences' have the phrase 'light at the end of the tunnel' in them. Maybe the tunnel is the black hole, and it's only the effort on this end that keeps them from being sucked in.

Personally I believe we're born, we live, and we die - no afterlife! Plus I don't know if I'd really want to 'live' forever.

MacGee

2,513 posts

251 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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god is the light===metaphorical light..not EMR.

Steamer

14,094 posts

234 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Wooow! I'm still waiting for a religious person to the question: Dinosaurs - why!?!

...or maybe the Romans took those first few chapters from your bible too.

ewenm

28,506 posts

266 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Steamer said:
Wooow! I'm still waiting for a religious person to the question: Dinosaurs - why!?!

...or maybe the Romans took those first few chapters from your bible too.
Do you mean someone who takes the bible literally or merely someone who is religious? There aren't many of the first sort around...

Steamer

14,094 posts

234 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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ewenm said:
Steamer said:
Wooow! I'm still waiting for a religious person to the question: Dinosaurs - why!?!

...or maybe the Romans took those first few chapters from your bible too.
Do you mean someone who takes the bible literally or merely someone who is religious? There aren't many of the first sort around...
Don't get me wrong - I'm well aware the bible only works when you label a vast percentage of it as metaphorical (handy excuse that! I'll try that one in my next design meeting and see where it gets me)

also - I loved learning about the dinosaurs at school and seeing the odd bone in a museum, but as a 'vehicle' to house 'the soul' while on its journey of progression I think they were pretty limited in exactly what that 'soul' was going to learn or offer during its mortal coil... as far as I can see they just ate grass / each other, shagged and fell into tar pits.

Sorry - just realised this is going a fair bit O/T - but the same questions popped up during a meal last night, although we didnt get anywhere near the blackhole issue! I think the conversation ended with something along the lines of: you only choose to believe in something to give you hope that there is something better than this!

Jesus TF Christ

5,740 posts

252 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Steamer said:
Wooow! I'm still waiting for a religious person to the question: Dinosaurs - why!?!

...or maybe the Romans took those first few chapters from your bible too.
Dinosaurs never existed, dinosaur bones were put there by God to test our faith in what I considered, quite frankly, a rather cruel prank.
But then who am I to judge?

ewenm

28,506 posts

266 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Steamer said:
ewenm said:
Steamer said:
Wooow! I'm still waiting for a religious person to the question: Dinosaurs - why!?!

...or maybe the Romans took those first few chapters from your bible too.
Do you mean someone who takes the bible literally or merely someone who is religious? There aren't many of the first sort around...
Don't get me wrong - I'm well aware the bible only works when you label a vast percentage of it as metaphorical (handy excuse that! I'll try that one in my next design meeting and see where it gets me)

also - I loved learning about the dinosaurs at school and seeing the odd bone in a museum, but as a 'vehicle' to house 'the soul' while on its journey of progression I think they were pretty limited in exactly what that 'soul' was going to learn or offer during its mortal coil... as far as I can see they just ate grass / each other, shagged and fell into tar pits.

Sorry - just realised this is going a fair bit O/T - but the same questions popped up during a meal last night, although we didnt get anywhere near the blackhole issue! I think the conversation ended with something along the lines of: you only choose to believe in something to give you hope that there is something better than this!
There is debate as to whether non-humans have souls at all. It's entirely irrelevant to me, but can provide some interesting philosophical discussions.

condor

8,837 posts

269 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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To know, for certain, there is an afterlife causes a lot 'mental-type' problems.

condor

8,837 posts

269 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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condor said:
To know, for certain, there is an afterlife causes a lot 'mental-type' problems.
one of which is to miss the word 'of' out biggrin

Steamer

14,094 posts

234 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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ewenm said:
Steamer said:
ewenm said:
Steamer said:
Wooow! I'm still waiting for a religious person to the question: Dinosaurs - why!?!

...or maybe the Romans took those first few chapters from your bible too.
Do you mean someone who takes the bible literally or merely someone who is religious? There aren't many of the first sort around...
Don't get me wrong - I'm well aware the bible only works when you label a vast percentage of it as metaphorical (handy excuse that! I'll try that one in my next design meeting and see where it gets me)

also - I loved learning about the dinosaurs at school and seeing the odd bone in a museum, but as a 'vehicle' to house 'the soul' while on its journey of progression I think they were pretty limited in exactly what that 'soul' was going to learn or offer during its mortal coil... as far as I can see they just ate grass / each other, shagged and fell into tar pits.

Sorry - just realised this is going a fair bit O/T - but the same questions popped up during a meal last night, although we didnt get anywhere near the blackhole issue! I think the conversation ended with something along the lines of: you only choose to believe in something to give you hope that there is something better than this!
There is debate as to whether non-humans have souls at all. It's entirely irrelevant to me, but can provide some interesting philosophical discussions.
So the notion / attribute of a soul evolved along with the human race? although that in itself kind of answers the question that if we have souls then our animal descendants must have some sort of soul too.


Edited by Steamer on Monday 25th May 18:18

ewenm

28,506 posts

266 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Steamer said:
ewenm said:
There is debate as to whether non-humans have souls at all. It's entirely irrelevant to me, but can provide some interesting philosophical discussions.
So the notion / attribute of a soul evolved along with the human race? although that in itself kind of answer the question that if we have souls then our animal descendants must have some sort of soul too.
Possibly. If, as a religious human, one were to believe that humanity was somehow special in the eyes of the deity, then you could argue that only humanity has a soul that is precious to that deity. Of course, how human do you have to be? Is it Homo Sapiens only? Or were there the beginnings of a soul in Homo Erectus (the children on PH will love that one hehe)?

My personal opinion is that man invented God, so once we were capable of the abstract thought required to ask the questions for which "God did it" is a possible answer, we also invented the concept of a soul. Is that ability to think in the abstract a uniquely human trait?

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

243 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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Mobsta said:
The majority of people believe in an afterlife and a soul or spirit body vehicle made of light, which transcends death.
No they don't.