How do I "raffle" my house?
How do I "raffle" my house?
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Hoppy2008

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2,496 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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So I've had a Villa in Florida for 5 years now, and want shot of it. Its on the Market over there, and although we have had some interest, we havent had any offers. 5 Bedrooms, 4 Bathrooms, private pool and Jacuzzi, etc..
I read about the guy over here who offered his house as a prize in a raffle. Did it go ahead?
And how would I go about doing the same for my place in the US?
Serious question, btw.
Cheers
Hoppy

WorAl

10,877 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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yes a bloke done it over here and IIRC it didnt make much money, his tickets were something like £10 each and he only sold a few thousand (think it was due to bad advertising).

You could do the same but its risky, just have to make sure its well advertised....could do it like Al Melling has done his Wildcat, put a limit on min number of tickets. only problem there is that people might not believe you when in a years time the raffle still isnt drawn.

Hoppy2008

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216 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Cheers mate.
Any other advice peeps?

tricky69

1,696 posts

263 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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firstly you can't simply 'raffle ' it in the traditional sense... you need some game involved like spot the ball etc otherwise you go against certain gambling laws

secondly it has been done and the chances of makeing money without serious amounts of investment on advertise is low

how about do a baffoon auction ?

Hoppy2008

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Tuesday 19th May 2009
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tricky69 said:
firstly you can't simply 'raffle ' it in the traditional sense... you need some game involved like spot the ball etc otherwise you go against certain gambling laws

secondly it has been done and the chances of makeing money without serious amounts of investment on advertise is low

how about do a baffoon auction ?
Yeah, I read about the need for a question, or game to be involved.
OK, whats a baffoon auc. WAIT!
I almost typed that but as I was typing it out, realised what I was setting myself up for!!
Good try smile

tricky69

1,696 posts

263 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Hoppy2008 said:
tricky69 said:
firstly you can't simply 'raffle ' it in the traditional sense... you need some game involved like spot the ball etc otherwise you go against certain gambling laws

secondly it has been done and the chances of makeing money without serious amounts of investment on advertise is low

how about do a baffoon auction ?
Yeah, I read about the need for a question, or game to be involved.
OK, whats a baffoon auc. WAIT!
I almost typed that but as I was typing it out, realised what I was setting myself up for!!
Good try smile
nearly got you wink

Uhura_Fighter

7,018 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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HTH

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I would think that a house "sale" in Florida might be a problem with gambling law etc. You would have to check I guess.

Would like to hear how you get on if you go ahead.

Hoppy2008

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Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Uhura_Fighter said:
HTH

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I would think that a house "sale" in Florida might be a problem with gambling law etc. You would have to check I guess.

Would like to hear how you get on if you go ahead.
Thanks Mate, I'll keep you updated if we do go down this route.
Cheers
Hoppy

Soovy

35,829 posts

292 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Hoppy2008 said:
Uhura_Fighter said:
HTH

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I would think that a house "sale" in Florida might be a problem with gambling law etc. You would have to check I guess.

Would like to hear how you get on if you go ahead.
Thanks Mate, I'll keep you updated if we do go down this route.
Cheers
Hoppy
Good luck in prison when you get convicted of racketeering.


Hoppy2008

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Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Soovy said:
Hoppy2008 said:
Uhura_Fighter said:
HTH

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I would think that a house "sale" in Florida might be a problem with gambling law etc. You would have to check I guess.

Would like to hear how you get on if you go ahead.
Thanks Mate, I'll keep you updated if we do go down this route.
Cheers
Hoppy
Good luck in prison when you get convicted of racketeering.
When I saw the name "soovy" as replying to this thread, I thought "oh good, some good avice from a Lawyer" !!!

You g1t!
laugh

Soovy

35,829 posts

292 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Hoppy2008 said:
Soovy said:
Hoppy2008 said:
Uhura_Fighter said:
HTH

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I would think that a house "sale" in Florida might be a problem with gambling law etc. You would have to check I guess.

Would like to hear how you get on if you go ahead.
Thanks Mate, I'll keep you updated if we do go down this route.
Cheers
Hoppy
Good luck in prison when you get convicted of racketeering.
When I saw the name "soovy" as replying to this thread, I thought "oh good, some good avice from a Lawyer" !!!

You g1t!
laugh
Always a pleasure, never a chore.

And Gambling is very very illegal in Florida. Don't do it.

onomatopoeia

3,517 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Hoppy2008 said:
I read about the guy over here who offered his house as a prize in a raffle. Did it go ahead?
The Wilshaw family. Draw is today I believe. After months of arguing with the gambling commission, barristers and so on. There's a topic about it somewhere, but I've no idea what forum it would be in now.

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Hoppy2008 said:
So I've had a Villa in Florida for 5 years now, and want shot of it. Its on the Market over there, and although we have had some interest, we havent had any offers. 5 Bedrooms, 4 Bathrooms, private pool and Jacuzzi, etc..
Could you PM me some details please as my dad is looking to buy a place in Florida at the minute.
Many thanks.

Simpo Two

90,751 posts

286 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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They drew numbers out of a bag - no different from the National Lottery that the Government loves so much. So what's the difference between a raffle and a lottery?

EDLT

15,421 posts

227 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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I wonder if they made a profit after advertising/lawyer costs.

Hoppy2008

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2,496 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
Hoppy2008 said:
So I've had a Villa in Florida for 5 years now, and want shot of it. Its on the Market over there, and although we have had some interest, we havent had any offers. 5 Bedrooms, 4 Bathrooms, private pool and Jacuzzi, etc..
Could you PM me some details please as my dad is looking to buy a place in Florida at the minute.
Many thanks.
Thanks Nolar Dog, YHM
smile

Soovy

35,829 posts

292 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Simpo Two said:
They drew numbers out of a bag - no different from the National Lottery that the Government loves so much. So what's the difference between a raffle and a lottery?
None.

A lottery is a game of chance with no element of skill, and you need a licence to run one (like Camelot) - otherwise they are ILLEGAL.

The dispute here was that their competition had a question which they said was an element of skill, and therefore not a lottery, and therefore legal. The Gambling Commission felt that the question was too easy and therefore there was no element of skill, and therefore that the draw was a lottery and therefore illegal.


That's why chocolate competitions have a "tie breaker...."




Hoppy2008

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2,496 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Soovy said:
Hoppy2008 said:
Soovy said:
Hoppy2008 said:
Uhura_Fighter said:
HTH

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I would think that a house "sale" in Florida might be a problem with gambling law etc. You would have to check I guess.

Would like to hear how you get on if you go ahead.
Thanks Mate, I'll keep you updated if we do go down this route.
Cheers
Hoppy
Good luck in prison when you get convicted of racketeering.
When I saw the name "soovy" as replying to this thread, I thought "oh good, some good avice from a Lawyer" !!!

You g1t!
laugh
Always a pleasure, never a chore.

And Gambling is very very illegal in Florida. Don't do it.
Soovy, thanks for the reply.
But if the competition entrants are in the UK, surely its not breaking any US rules?
Or am I missing something?
Cheers
Hoppy

Soovy

35,829 posts

292 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Hoppy2008 said:
Soovy said:
Hoppy2008 said:
Soovy said:
Hoppy2008 said:
Uhura_Fighter said:
HTH

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I would think that a house "sale" in Florida might be a problem with gambling law etc. You would have to check I guess.

Would like to hear how you get on if you go ahead.
Thanks Mate, I'll keep you updated if we do go down this route.
Cheers
Hoppy
Good luck in prison when you get convicted of racketeering.
When I saw the name "soovy" as replying to this thread, I thought "oh good, some good avice from a Lawyer" !!!

You g1t!
laugh
Always a pleasure, never a chore.

And Gambling is very very illegal in Florida. Don't do it.
Soovy, thanks for the reply.
But if the competition entrants are in the UK, surely its not breaking any US rules?
Or am I missing something?
Cheers
Hoppy
Aye, sorry, thought you were based in US.