Bob Quick resignation

[Slaav]

So why does he fall on his sword and is the only one that feels it appropriate to do so?

I can think of quite a few others who should be ahead of him in the queue......

[Puggit]

Red Ken got it right when he said that the terrorists will be laughing that they've managed to cause this.

Should he go? Actually yes, this is a gross dereliction of duty. Such a minor slip, with such major consequences.

As you say, so many above him should have gone for far worse 'crimes'.

[Jasandjules]

Should have been sacked for incompetence rather than leaving. IT's not the first time his judgement has been questionable.

[Saddle bum]

If the bloke was doing his job properly, sacking him from such an important position is an outrage. I know he quit, but was he pushed?

OK, the guy was a loose cannon, but was he effective at what he did?

A couple of days pay forfeited is more appropriate.

BTW, I do have experience of handling classified documents and it is a real PIA.

Also a bloke in his position should have a staff officer watching his arse.

He has obviously made some enemies in the political arena.

I feel quite sorry for him.

[Jasandjules]

Saddle bum said:

BTW, I do have experience of handling classified documents and it is a real PIA.
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It really isn't difficult to note that when one has documents which are secret that one does not have them on display in public. I mean, when we had visitors in the office we put certain documents in the drawers and indeed each night we had a clear desk policy so that cleaners could not obtain such information. Now at home if I have guests coming or workmen around the house, again, somehow I manage to keep such documents safe, including if necessary simply turning some of them over.......

If I was going to another building for a meeting then I'd somehow manage to take documents in a wallet file so either whilst walking or if getting a cab, no-one else could see them.

In five years I never once managed to wander about with the secret documents face up in a public place. Now, IF I was heading somewhere, oh I don't know, with hundreds of photographers, I'd have been even more careful.

[silver.fox.2008]

If he was disciplined and sacked he would have lost his pension.

As he resigned he's got to keep it.

Wasn't too far off pension age so i think they probably said, look do the right thing and resign and keep your pension.

[Jasandjules]

Yes, that was my first thought.

[tubbystu]

Has he resigned from being a serving copper, or just the anti-terrorist job part

[ianash]

I think he made a major error of judgement with the Damien Green affair. He was never going to get any support from Boris and I think Sir Paul Stephenson the Commissioner, never forgave him for nearly costing him the Commissioners job over the Green f/up. I think his replacement is a very canny operator; he'll do well.

[andy-xr]

Shouldnt have had hard copy in the first place IMO

[Gunny Sergeant D]

Dear Mrs Smith, Mr McNulty, Mr Darling, Mr Hoon, Winky, et al,

Here we have somebody who has made a mistake and resigned, perhaps this is a trend that you should follow.

Yours sincerely,
Someone that pays a lot of tax.

[Astacus]

Yes, interesting topic. My first thought after "well he's had it" was

"hang on a minute, why has no one questioned the judgement of the press here?"

The guy was not walking down Oxford St carrying a secret document for all to see, he got out of a car probably yards from the front door of number 10. No one else but BiB and the press would have been in the street, it's sealed off. There is no security risk here except what the the press choose to create. It was they who choose to photograph a secret document with a long lens and then wave it all over the papers. Ok one of the papers rang downing street and told them they had the document and were going to publish it...in my opinion this does not save them. As a consequence the police operation had to be brought forward and could have been a disaster.

He was stupid for allowing this to happen to him, and in any case the poor guy has a bit of a track record, but in my view the press are guilty of behaving recklessly, just as much as the guy with the paper. After all, they had the choice of whether to take the photo or not, and whether to publish or not. With barey more that a moments consideration no doubt, they decided that their coup was more important.

No doubt I am talking bks as usual, but I am not a fan of the press

Edited by Astacus on Friday 10th April 00:22

[anonymous-user]

There is of course a precedent for all this. In May last year Caroline Flint, a hatchet faced Neo Trot / Brownite government minister, was photographed in identical circumstances entering No 10 with briefing papers visible that exposed confidential information regarding the house price collapse including the statement "we can't tell how bad it will get". She was photographed and the contents of her "confidential" briefing paper were all over the tabs the following morning. Did she resign? Don't be stupid, she's a government minister.

Quick was right to resign. Flint should have resigned too.

[s3fella]

This whole debarcle for which he should have been sacked, IMO, (not resigned and get a £114k a year pension), brought these terror raids forward, allegedly. What is the betting these 11 or 12 people get banged up, not enough evidence, released without (significant) charges and then we shell out a great big pile of compo to them......? I hear they are still hunting for the "bomb factory!".......

[chris watton]

s3fella said:

This whole debarcle for which he should have been sacked, IMO, (not resigned and get a £114k a year pension), brought these terror raids forward, allegedly. What is the betting these 11 or 12 people get banged up, not enough evidence, released without (significant) charges and then we shell out a great big pile of compo to them......? I hear they are still hunting for the "bomb factory!".......

It's almost comical, for us who remember the constant 'real' terror killings and bombings in the 70's and 80's, you just know this incompetent government and media are hyping this up to the nines - splashed on the BBC screens - 'TERROR ARRESTS'!

One may think they actually want us to be scared with the silly over emotive language and words they use…..

[Viper_Larry]

Sun headline today is "You can’t quit quicker than a thick Quick quitter"



Thanks to S.Fry for this, I do NOT read the Sun!

[agentzigzag]

chris watton said:

s3fella said:

This whole debarcle for which he should have been sacked, IMO, (not resigned and get a £114k a year pension), brought these terror raids forward, allegedly. What is the betting these 11 or 12 people get banged up, not enough evidence, released without (significant) charges and then we shell out a great big pile of compo to them......? I hear they are still hunting for the "bomb factory!".......

It's almost comical, for us who remember the constant 'real' terror killings and bombings in the 70's and 80's, you just know this incompetent government and media are hyping this up to the nines - splashed on the BBC screens - 'TERROR ARRESTS'!

One may think they actually want us to be scared with the silly over emotive language and words they use…..

So the London bus and tube bombs were not 'real' terrorist attacks? so what if they are hyping up arrests? if they can provide evidence that lives have been saved by the arrests then good on them, the media relishes showing up the governments failings but when they come good they shouldnt publish it?

I dont buy into the theory of the media using scare stories to control the public, the amount of hideous crimes that dont make the papers is unbelievable, if they really wanted to scare people they could.

[s3fella]

Saddle bum said:

BTW, I do have experience of handling classified documents and it is a real PIA.

I feel quite sorry for him.

Yeah, me too, all that having to actually put papers in a briefcase and stuff. Who's got the time for that, plus there is the cost of the briefcase itself, some of them on ebay are over £15! I mean who's got that kinda coin?




I wonder if they will buy him a briefcase as a leaving gift...

[s3fella]

agentzigzag said:

chris watton said:

s3fella said:

This whole debarcle for which he should have been sacked, IMO, (not resigned and get a £114k a year pension), brought these terror raids forward, allegedly. What is the betting these 11 or 12 people get banged up, not enough evidence, released without (significant) charges and then we shell out a great big pile of compo to them......? I hear they are still hunting for the "bomb factory!".......

It's almost comical, for us who remember the constant 'real' terror killings and bombings in the 70's and 80's, you just know this incompetent government and media are hyping this up to the nines - splashed on the BBC screens - 'TERROR ARRESTS'!

One may think they actually want us to be scared with the silly over emotive language and words they use…..

So the London bus and tube bombs were not 'real' terrorist attacks? so what if they are hyping up arrests? if they can provide evidence that lives have been saved by the arrests then good on them, the media relishes showing up the governments failings but when they come good they shouldnt publish it?

I dont buy into the theory of the media using scare stories to control the public, the amount of hideous crimes that dont make the papers is unbelievable, if they really wanted to scare people they could.

It's a shame they did not arrest them before it happened, isn't it?

I am all for arresting anyone who may be involved, as clearly London bombings could have been averted or delayed had hey arrested the team that did them, after all they were all on the radar. My concern here is that because the arrests were made early (and we presume only a few days early but even so), if they fail to find the evidence they really need to make it stick, this lot will be out and claiming compo of the taxpayer again.....possibly all becasue it was brought forward. According to reports (!) they have stil to find the actual bomb factory. There is plenty of precidet for bodged terror arrests resulting in compo payments too.

Fingers crossed our BIB have salvaged something from their bosses stupidity, IMO

[chris watton]

agentzigzag said:

chris watton said:

s3fella said:

This whole debarcle for which he should have been sacked, IMO, (not resigned and get a £114k a year pension), brought these terror raids forward, allegedly. What is the betting these 11 or 12 people get banged up, not enough evidence, released without (significant) charges and then we shell out a great big pile of compo to them......? I hear they are still hunting for the "bomb factory!".......

It's almost comical, for us who remember the constant 'real' terror killings and bombings in the 70's and 80's, you just know this incompetent government and media are hyping this up to the nines - splashed on the BBC screens - 'TERROR ARRESTS'!

One may think they actually want us to be scared with the silly over emotive language and words they use…..

So the London bus and tube bombs were not 'real' terrorist attacks? so what if they are hyping up arrests? if they can provide evidence that lives have been saved by the arrests then good on them, the media relishes showing up the governments failings but when they come good they shouldnt publish it?

I dont buy into the theory of the media using scare stories to control the public, the amount of hideous crimes that dont make the papers is unbelievable, if they really wanted to scare people they could.

They were, but there was a time when bombings/killings were on a weekly basis - I don't remember the then government bringing in new laws to curb freedoms of the general populace back then - do you? I am sure the emotive headlines of today are part sanctioned by the government to make us feel more scared than we really should be. Yes the London bombings were real - as were the bombings in the 70's and 80's - trouble is, I simply cannot believe anything I am told anymore - I wish I could!