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I am currently in the same situation as many others at the minute that I am looking for work, and would consider any number of jobs......if only I knew what they were, what is required, and where they can be found. The Internet is a fairly large place nowadays and I know there is more out there then just "Business Development Managers" and "Sales Executives" that manage to appear on every search you do.
This made me wonder whether setting up a thread where the vast population of PH can post as much or as little about their current job as they like (or previous job if it was an interesting one). This may give people looking for work the spark they so desperately needed, or the further information to start working towards these jobs, or to root them out of the many job search engines.
I guess maybe a few slack rules may help. So it would go a little something like this...
Thanks
This made me wonder whether setting up a thread where the vast population of PH can post as much or as little about their current job as they like (or previous job if it was an interesting one). This may give people looking for work the spark they so desperately needed, or the further information to start working towards these jobs, or to root them out of the many job search engines.
I guess maybe a few slack rules may help. So it would go a little something like this...
- Job title
- Brief job description
- What you think were the key elements of getting into that job (e.g. your degree, a few years experience on the shop floor etc.)
- The best websites or areas that your job is generally advertised (if at all).
- Obviously try and keep repeating similar jobs to a minimum (e.g. we obviously don't want a dozen estate agents, that maybe too much for some people to handle
)
- The more bazaar and interesting the job the better. I'm really looking for the type of job a lot of people would never really think about, or even know existed.
Thanks
I'll start with my previous job (I currently work in a local pub, which I am sure is a job many people knew about)
1. Installation Engineer
2. In the Telecommunication/IT sector I was responsible for installing and configuring call logging software onto client networks in both public and private sectors. It was a good opportunity to get exposure to some very large clients and gain client facing experience.
3. Being a graduate job my degree in Business Information Systems played the key role in being considered for this job, as was the 12 months university placement year in technical support.
4. This job was advertised by Just I.T. (recruitment agency) on graduate-jobs.co.uk. A good site for grad jobs in all sectors.
Not very interesting I know but felt I should start it off.
1. Installation Engineer
2. In the Telecommunication/IT sector I was responsible for installing and configuring call logging software onto client networks in both public and private sectors. It was a good opportunity to get exposure to some very large clients and gain client facing experience.
3. Being a graduate job my degree in Business Information Systems played the key role in being considered for this job, as was the 12 months university placement year in technical support.
4. This job was advertised by Just I.T. (recruitment agency) on graduate-jobs.co.uk. A good site for grad jobs in all sectors.
Not very interesting I know but felt I should start it off.
1. Consultant CAPEX Estimator
2. At very early stages in an Oil/Gas project Process Engineers work out roughly what facilities will be required on and offshore to extract the Hydrocarbons. I then work out what it will cost and whether or not it's worth looking at further depending on what income the client comapny can expect to bring in from the recovered product compared to the expected cost outlay. These jobs are normally 10-15 years in the future and in the region of $2-20 billion.
3. Hons degree in Quantity Surveying, site QS experience, basic understanding of reservoir and process engineering, good understanding of offshore construction methodology.
4. oilcareers.com
Good points Money is good, work is interesting and varied, travel to some nice places.
Bad Points Travel to some dodgy places too. Industry is very market dependant but my specific job is (hopefully) market-proof because the work is future-business.
2. At very early stages in an Oil/Gas project Process Engineers work out roughly what facilities will be required on and offshore to extract the Hydrocarbons. I then work out what it will cost and whether or not it's worth looking at further depending on what income the client comapny can expect to bring in from the recovered product compared to the expected cost outlay. These jobs are normally 10-15 years in the future and in the region of $2-20 billion.
3. Hons degree in Quantity Surveying, site QS experience, basic understanding of reservoir and process engineering, good understanding of offshore construction methodology.
4. oilcareers.com
Good points Money is good, work is interesting and varied, travel to some nice places.
Bad Points Travel to some dodgy places too. Industry is very market dependant but my specific job is (hopefully) market-proof because the work is future-business.
1. Director.
2. Contract IT work, specialising in data migrations and system integration with Oracle.
3. Experience gained through IT consultancy with big firms and previous employment with IBM and PWC.
4. www.jobserve.com and people I've worked with before.
Much riskier than being employed as a consultant but more lucrative and flexible.
2. Contract IT work, specialising in data migrations and system integration with Oracle.
3. Experience gained through IT consultancy with big firms and previous employment with IBM and PWC.
4. www.jobserve.com and people I've worked with before.
Much riskier than being employed as a consultant but more lucrative and flexible.
Almost a copy of ewenm....
1. Director
2. Contract IT work - Technical/Infrastructure/Solution Architect - design and documentation of IT solutions.
3. Worked my way up from a PC Engineer to a Technical Consultant on a permanent basis, then moved to contracting and have mostly been with large oursourcers ever since.
4. JobServe, CWJobs, The IT Job Board, Total Jobs, LinkedIn and word of mouth.
Comments also as above; generally carries more risk, but the rewards are worth it. Well, when there's actually a market.....
1. Director
2. Contract IT work - Technical/Infrastructure/Solution Architect - design and documentation of IT solutions.
3. Worked my way up from a PC Engineer to a Technical Consultant on a permanent basis, then moved to contracting and have mostly been with large oursourcers ever since.
4. JobServe, CWJobs, The IT Job Board, Total Jobs, LinkedIn and word of mouth.
Comments also as above; generally carries more risk, but the rewards are worth it. Well, when there's actually a market.....
Edited by MarkoTVR on Friday 10th April 11:26
1. Marketing & Business Development
2. I work for a small firm so my job encompases many areas - marketing, pricing, prospecting & customer development mainly.
3. I now have a degree, but when I started with the company I was still studying. The main reasons they took me on were my drive, confidence and willingness to take charge and try things. I had no previous experience in the industry.
4. I got this job initially by emailing the Director (I had worked on a university project with the company previously) and asking if there was any summer work available. The summer work led to a permanant part time contract through my final year and I expect to be moving onto a full time contract in the next couple of months.
Although my job isn't particularly bizarre or interesting, I think it shows the importance of networking and putting yourself out there to create a position for yourself. I remember seeing some statistic that stated that x% of jobs (I don't remember the exact percentage) are never properly advertised.
2. I work for a small firm so my job encompases many areas - marketing, pricing, prospecting & customer development mainly.
3. I now have a degree, but when I started with the company I was still studying. The main reasons they took me on were my drive, confidence and willingness to take charge and try things. I had no previous experience in the industry.
4. I got this job initially by emailing the Director (I had worked on a university project with the company previously) and asking if there was any summer work available. The summer work led to a permanant part time contract through my final year and I expect to be moving onto a full time contract in the next couple of months.
Although my job isn't particularly bizarre or interesting, I think it shows the importance of networking and putting yourself out there to create a position for yourself. I remember seeing some statistic that stated that x% of jobs (I don't remember the exact percentage) are never properly advertised.
Edited by Stevenj214 on Friday 10th April 13:57
1) Regional Aftersales Consultant
2)I work for a motor manufacturer, and look after a region/zone of 10 dealers. The role is part consultative - best practice, analysis of sales /purchase data, marketing, and parts sales/account management, and part selling, programme mangement. Lots of people management involved, targetting, process improvement, all facets of running a business from a consultative slightly hands off POV, with the aim of increasing parts/service sales. Its home based, but I am with a dealer everyday for most of the day. It is relentless - but fun and varied. Within in reason I am sort of my own boss, or at least I work with a fair degree of autonomy. So long as the targets are hit.
3) Its the second manufacturer I've worked for, got immensely lucky with the first, applied speculatively to an agency that required staff to fulfill a contract, interviewed by the head honcho and he took me on as direct staff - much to the annoyance of the supplier.
Qualifications, I have a degree and masters degree, both of which are useful, but neither of which got me the job. You definately need industry experience, I worked in a dealer for a year, which is enough experience, but there are those that work for decades in a dealer before getting their chance. Pay and benefits are good, pension cars etc. If you like cars/business then it is the ideal job. But working for a manufacturer is very difficult to get into. However once you are in...
4) websites, motortrader, am-online, pistonheads sometimes, there are specific motor trade recruitment specialists. At the mo tho, jobs like mine are very thin on the ground.
2)I work for a motor manufacturer, and look after a region/zone of 10 dealers. The role is part consultative - best practice, analysis of sales /purchase data, marketing, and parts sales/account management, and part selling, programme mangement. Lots of people management involved, targetting, process improvement, all facets of running a business from a consultative slightly hands off POV, with the aim of increasing parts/service sales. Its home based, but I am with a dealer everyday for most of the day. It is relentless - but fun and varied. Within in reason I am sort of my own boss, or at least I work with a fair degree of autonomy. So long as the targets are hit.
3) Its the second manufacturer I've worked for, got immensely lucky with the first, applied speculatively to an agency that required staff to fulfill a contract, interviewed by the head honcho and he took me on as direct staff - much to the annoyance of the supplier.
Qualifications, I have a degree and masters degree, both of which are useful, but neither of which got me the job. You definately need industry experience, I worked in a dealer for a year, which is enough experience, but there are those that work for decades in a dealer before getting their chance. Pay and benefits are good, pension cars etc. If you like cars/business then it is the ideal job. But working for a manufacturer is very difficult to get into. However once you are in...
4) websites, motortrader, am-online, pistonheads sometimes, there are specific motor trade recruitment specialists. At the mo tho, jobs like mine are very thin on the ground.
1. Instrumental Teacher and Repairer
2. I teach clarinet to a number of private pupils both children and adults, I also work within schools delivering most childrens first introduction to music through clubs. As from September I'll be taking a few jobs for the Derbyshire music partnership. Repair and service woodwind instruments.
3. High level of practical and theory knowledge in a musical instrument, music degree or diploma, I have a diploma as I'll be doing my degree in Motorsport Technology! Practical experience / course in musical instrument making and repair.
4. Local council music service, schools, clubs for children.
2. I teach clarinet to a number of private pupils both children and adults, I also work within schools delivering most childrens first introduction to music through clubs. As from September I'll be taking a few jobs for the Derbyshire music partnership. Repair and service woodwind instruments.
3. High level of practical and theory knowledge in a musical instrument, music degree or diploma, I have a diploma as I'll be doing my degree in Motorsport Technology! Practical experience / course in musical instrument making and repair.
4. Local council music service, schools, clubs for children.
1. CEO/Owner
2. Recruitment Consultant/Business (Perm & Contract positions, providing skilled labour eg. Mechanics, Auto Electricians, Engineers)
3. Self motivation, drive and not being afraid of hard work are the primary skills/abilities along with a good telephone manner, all-round experience/knowledge of the sector you work in or are recruiting for and ability to build relationships will be the difference between success/failure
4. www.e-ppl.co.uk
or
www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk or www.gojobsite.co.uk
2. Recruitment Consultant/Business (Perm & Contract positions, providing skilled labour eg. Mechanics, Auto Electricians, Engineers)
3. Self motivation, drive and not being afraid of hard work are the primary skills/abilities along with a good telephone manner, all-round experience/knowledge of the sector you work in or are recruiting for and ability to build relationships will be the difference between success/failure
4. www.e-ppl.co.uk
or
www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk or www.gojobsite.co.uk
1. Senior Sailing Instructor
2. Teach people to sail dinghys. Also race coach variety of levels up to national standard.
3. Key elements would be successful dinghy racer and instructing qualifications
4. www.marineresources.co.uk,www.rya.org.uk
2. Teach people to sail dinghys. Also race coach variety of levels up to national standard.
3. Key elements would be successful dinghy racer and instructing qualifications
4. www.marineresources.co.uk,www.rya.org.uk
1. Presales consultant
2. I work for a software vendor within the Virtualisation part of IT. My role is to help the sales force out with the technical aspects of selling. ie demos, presentations, proof of concepts, transfer of knowledge - even post sales support. ie it's really me that sells the software
3. You need to have technical and sales skills. The normal route in is from the technical side, gaining some sales skills. But some sales people make the change to being more technical.
4. Jobserve and word of mouth.
2. I work for a software vendor within the Virtualisation part of IT. My role is to help the sales force out with the technical aspects of selling. ie demos, presentations, proof of concepts, transfer of knowledge - even post sales support. ie it's really me that sells the software
3. You need to have technical and sales skills. The normal route in is from the technical side, gaining some sales skills. But some sales people make the change to being more technical.
4. Jobserve and word of mouth.
1. Valuation Consultant
2. Arriving at whole company valuations and valuing minority shareholdings. Using the values arrived at to assist tax planning (Inheritance tax/ Capital Gains Tax) and commerical valuations to assist the sale of companies.
3. Started by getting a degree in Accounting and Finance, then a graduate job with Deloitte (big four accountants) in the personal tax department. Completed Association of Taxation Technicians qualification whilst working in personal tax then moved to employment tax (PAYE/ expenses and benefit planning and employee share schemes) at Deloitte. Whilst I was working on employee share schemes I spent some time agreeing tax valuations for share options which gave me a starting point in that. Working at Deloitte you constantly get hounded by agencies for CV's and it was answering one of these calls which got me my current job.
4. Not too many valuation roles come up, but etaxjobs.com is a starting point for general tax jobs.
2. Arriving at whole company valuations and valuing minority shareholdings. Using the values arrived at to assist tax planning (Inheritance tax/ Capital Gains Tax) and commerical valuations to assist the sale of companies.
3. Started by getting a degree in Accounting and Finance, then a graduate job with Deloitte (big four accountants) in the personal tax department. Completed Association of Taxation Technicians qualification whilst working in personal tax then moved to employment tax (PAYE/ expenses and benefit planning and employee share schemes) at Deloitte. Whilst I was working on employee share schemes I spent some time agreeing tax valuations for share options which gave me a starting point in that. Working at Deloitte you constantly get hounded by agencies for CV's and it was answering one of these calls which got me my current job.
4. Not too many valuation roles come up, but etaxjobs.com is a starting point for general tax jobs.
1. Technical Manager (Construction)
2. The job has two main parts. The first is managing a team (or teams) of design consultants to ensure they deliver a design package (for planning, tender and construction) that is on time, within budget and meeting the Client’s aspirations, whislt ensuring all of the relevant statutory requirements are met (planning, building reg’s, code for sustainable homes, lifetime homes etc.). This involves the creation and managing of the design budget as well as constant liason with the commercial team to ensure their budget is achievable.
The other element is dealing with technical queries from the construction team and constantly reviewing the potential for optimisation of the scheme as it develops.
3. Most come into the job from a consultant background (usually architecture), but a few come across from commercial and construction. You do need a detailed understanding of construction, so it’s not a job you can really do straight from college or uni.
As well as construction knowledge you need to be a good communicator as most of the job is talking to builders, designers, authorituies and clients/board directors. You also have to delete stress from your dictionary because if you can’t take pressure this isn’t the right job.
The goalposts change on a daily basis to ensure the best product is delivered at the right price. This can be very frustrating to begin with and usually involves ludicrous deadlines, but it soon becomes just part of the job.
4. Most people are poached/headhunted within the trade as it’s quite a small industry when it comes to the bigger players, but jobs can be found on construction employment websites.
2. The job has two main parts. The first is managing a team (or teams) of design consultants to ensure they deliver a design package (for planning, tender and construction) that is on time, within budget and meeting the Client’s aspirations, whislt ensuring all of the relevant statutory requirements are met (planning, building reg’s, code for sustainable homes, lifetime homes etc.). This involves the creation and managing of the design budget as well as constant liason with the commercial team to ensure their budget is achievable.
The other element is dealing with technical queries from the construction team and constantly reviewing the potential for optimisation of the scheme as it develops.
3. Most come into the job from a consultant background (usually architecture), but a few come across from commercial and construction. You do need a detailed understanding of construction, so it’s not a job you can really do straight from college or uni.
As well as construction knowledge you need to be a good communicator as most of the job is talking to builders, designers, authorituies and clients/board directors. You also have to delete stress from your dictionary because if you can’t take pressure this isn’t the right job.
The goalposts change on a daily basis to ensure the best product is delivered at the right price. This can be very frustrating to begin with and usually involves ludicrous deadlines, but it soon becomes just part of the job.
4. Most people are poached/headhunted within the trade as it’s quite a small industry when it comes to the bigger players, but jobs can be found on construction employment websites.
1. Job title - Marine Engineer (EOOW) (well soon I hope; will be qualifying in a month or so)
2. Brief job description - Duties include operation, planned & unplanned maintenance of engine room plant, oversight of ER staff(motormen, wipers, fitters, etc.), admin associated with the above, watchkeeping may be necessary on some ships(think nightshift with attitude), plus anything else the chief decides needs done.
3. What you think were the key elements of getting into that job - Er, I applied, they bit my hand off; there's a shortage you see...
4. The best websites or areas that your job is generally advertised (if at all). - the Merchant Navy Training Board site is the best place to start, it links to all the companies currently taking on cadets. There are opportunities for:
-people with just GCSEs/A levels or equivalent (3year HND cadetship or Bsc in marine science) for both school leavers and mature entrants
-people in the middle of a degree who are bored(undergrad schemes typically takes 2years)
-postgrad like me(typically 18months). There's deck, which involves navigating and manoeuvering the ship, cargo operations etc, or Engineering, which subdivides into marine engineering and Electro-technical.
There are Purser/hospitality cadetships run by the cruise companies but I know nowt about it; I expect there's a lot of crossover from ordinary hospitality management.
Pay is shite while you're a cadet though; minimum wage only.
Beyond this, the world is theoretically my oyster; stay afloat and work up to chief engineer which could be achieved in less than 10 years, salary £50-100k dependent on ship type and seniority.
come ashore and work in ship management or for a class society(Lloyds' etc.). A good superintendant can earn similar money.
A lot of folk move into the oil and gas sector, both ashore and on the rigs. There are also paths into electrical power generation, as a lot of the plant is the same.
2. Brief job description - Duties include operation, planned & unplanned maintenance of engine room plant, oversight of ER staff(motormen, wipers, fitters, etc.), admin associated with the above, watchkeeping may be necessary on some ships(think nightshift with attitude), plus anything else the chief decides needs done.
3. What you think were the key elements of getting into that job - Er, I applied, they bit my hand off; there's a shortage you see...
4. The best websites or areas that your job is generally advertised (if at all). - the Merchant Navy Training Board site is the best place to start, it links to all the companies currently taking on cadets. There are opportunities for:
-people with just GCSEs/A levels or equivalent (3year HND cadetship or Bsc in marine science) for both school leavers and mature entrants
-people in the middle of a degree who are bored(undergrad schemes typically takes 2years)
-postgrad like me(typically 18months). There's deck, which involves navigating and manoeuvering the ship, cargo operations etc, or Engineering, which subdivides into marine engineering and Electro-technical.
There are Purser/hospitality cadetships run by the cruise companies but I know nowt about it; I expect there's a lot of crossover from ordinary hospitality management.
Pay is shite while you're a cadet though; minimum wage only.
Beyond this, the world is theoretically my oyster; stay afloat and work up to chief engineer which could be achieved in less than 10 years, salary £50-100k dependent on ship type and seniority.
come ashore and work in ship management or for a class society(Lloyds' etc.). A good superintendant can earn similar money.
A lot of folk move into the oil and gas sector, both ashore and on the rigs. There are also paths into electrical power generation, as a lot of the plant is the same.
Edited by hidetheelephants on Thursday 21st May 00:35
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