Anyone fancy buying a Spitfire??

Anyone fancy buying a Spitfire??

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Wacky Racer

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39,768 posts

262 months

Simpo Two

89,077 posts

280 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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I'm just short by £1.5M.

Fish

4,016 posts

297 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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It's been on sale for over a year now!

DOOG

1,905 posts

261 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Are the 2 seaters really more valuable?

I think i'd have been tempted to restore it to the spec it left the factory with..

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

213 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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It's a bargain. A veyron will net you 1001bhp for around that price with todays exchange rate, and top out just shy of 260mph.

Simpo Two

89,077 posts

280 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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DOOG said:
Are the 2 seaters really more valuable?
I expect they're more in demand - but then as I understand it you can't sell rides because the air certificate is different... so not sure how it works. Maybe if you give them a new propeller for Christmas they'll take you for a free flight.

Fish

4,016 posts

297 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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No you cannot commercially sell rides however if someone had made a large donation to the charitable trust that maintains them and was then offered a free ride that is something totally different.

My brother has flown one of them.... the bd.

elster

17,517 posts

225 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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I'm sure there will be a yank wanting to ship it to USA.

The 4 spitfires that I know of being sold by people I know have all going to USA.

Sad times indeed when our own heritage is not appreciated enough for people with the cash to keep them in the UK.

Simpo Two

89,077 posts

280 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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elster said:
Sad times indeed when our own heritage is not appreciated enough for people with the cash to keep them in the UK.
Or there are many more rich people in the USA (low tax regime) and/or easier legislation to fly warbirds?

It's not new - English cars evolved smaller and weedier than American cars because the British government slapped on a 'horsepower tax' - £1 per hp - hence they got the Ford V8 pilot and we got the Austin 7....

sleep envy

62,260 posts

264 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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If you buy one through a business could you use this as a tax write-off?

anonymous-user

69 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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elster said:
I'm sure there will be a yank wanting to ship it to USA.

The 4 spitfires that I know of being sold by people I know have all going to USA.

Sad times indeed when our own heritage is not appreciated enough for people with the cash to keep them in the UK.
Virtually nobody can afford to operate them in the U.K. Most owners just about break even through the airshow circuit, I think the Grace Spitfire is the only one that may make any money at all.

Despite what people may think there are almost too many spitfires in the U.K. for the amount of airshows we have. That's the problem people operating less popular aircraft have and as soon as public interest wanes, even more will be gone.

There are plenty of WW2 aircraft that could be restored and flown but the public aren't interested and thus it's not economically worth it.

eharding

14,539 posts

299 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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el stovey said:
too many spitfires
I'm sorry. I understand what each of those words mean, in isolation, but arranged in that order, they make absolutely no sense whatsoever....are you sure you typed them correctly?

I think I've said before, I knew Paul Portelli, who was having this particular aircraft restored. Very sadly, he died before it could be completed.

Actually, I think it is only a minority of classic warbirds in the UK which actually need to make a living on the airshow circuit, and the majority are owned by people who have been successful enough in business to be able to obtain and run these aircraft - and good luck to them.

eharding

14,539 posts

299 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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For those of you with time on your hands, this particular Spitfire will be at White Waltham on Friday (17th April), making some short local flights (and hopefully at bit of noise) between 1200 and 1330.

IforB

9,840 posts

244 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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el stovey said:
elster said:
I'm sure there will be a yank wanting to ship it to USA.

The 4 spitfires that I know of being sold by people I know have all going to USA.

Sad times indeed when our own heritage is not appreciated enough for people with the cash to keep them in the UK.
Virtually nobody can afford to operate them in the U.K. Most owners just about break even through the airshow circuit, I think the Grace Spitfire is the only one that may make any money at all.

Despite what people may think there are almost too many spitfires in the U.K. for the amount of airshows we have. That's the problem people operating less popular aircraft have and as soon as public interest wanes, even more will be gone.

There are plenty of WW2 aircraft that could be restored and flown but the public aren't interested and thus it's not economically worth it.
Caroline makes a bit of money out of it, but not much. The aircraft is more a tribute to her husband than anything else.

There is no such thing as too many Spitfires. There cannot be. Even if everyone had 3 in their garage and you were issued with one by the CAA when you got a licence, there still wouldn't be enough.

One day, I will rob a bank or set up a City pyramid scheme and have a Spitfire. I actually have a secret (from the wife) account that is for such a thing, the only problem being that there is only £3.60 and some fluff in there at the moment....

My parents are getting suspicious as I keep asking them how much their life insurance policies are for, which did make christmas awkward.

When I have the money (got to think positive) then I'll do the airshow circuit, but just because I'm a show off, not because you need to do it to run the aircraft.

I'd still love a Mossie though aswell.

telecat

8,528 posts

256 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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Three initials C.A.A.

Stopping people flying since the war.

IforB

9,840 posts

244 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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Tell me about it. Those buggers have just told me I can't have my medical back until October at the earliest...........

C**ts And A***holes is how they are being described in my house today.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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IforB said:
Tell me about it. Those buggers have just told me I can't have my medical back until October at the earliest...........

C**ts And A***holes is how they are being described in my house today.
Someone on here a while ago posted this meaning which made me rofl Campaign Against Aviation.

IforB

9,840 posts

244 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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Campaign Against Aviation

Cash And Aggro

Corrupt And Awful

There are many, not all are true, but most are..............

elster

17,517 posts

225 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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IforB said:
Campaign Against Aviation

Cash And Aggro

Corrupt And Awful

There are many, not all are true, but most are..............
Indeed the Capaign Against Aviation meant my mum didn't fly her imported plane as they would only accept a manufacturer translated documentation.

They forgot to turn the pages over. It took 3 years, and a fk load of grief hassle and money.

Owning a warbird will rarely make money, much like hyper cars.

The CAA don't like to see the planes flying though, so make it as hard as possible.

One day I will have my Hurricane.

Mutley

3,178 posts

274 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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Has arrived on the pages again, but being called a Vickers Supermarine Spitfire.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8007586.stm

Did Vickers build Spits under licence?