SQL servers

[ew_topcat]

Just a quick question, what does SQL stand for ?

[RichardD]

Structured Query Language.

So there! Do you wish you never asked? I'm not sure if I should admit to knowing this sort of thing in public.

[Plotloss]

Sodding query language in every day use...

[Don]

Used to be pronounced SEQUEL.


Now more often SQUIRREL!

[puggit]

I've just carried out a SQL disaster recovery - great fun with an American on the other end who didn't know what she was doing and couldn't hear me in the server room.

90 mins later I got fedup and Webexed in - SQL back up and running in 10 mins

Anyone got a job for me?

[ew_topcat]

brilliant guys thanks, it was on the tip of my tongue but just couldn't remember. dont really need it for anything, it was just bugging me.

[agent006]

does anyone else find it really really irritating when people call it sequel?

[RichardD]

agent006 said:

does anyone else find it really really irritating when people call it sequel?

Know what ya mean, I tend to say S.Q.L. Not sure why - just what I've always done.

[fatsteve]

agent006 said:

does anyone else find it really really irritating when people call it sequel?

Nah, what I find more irritating is the term 'SQL Server DBA' , should be 'Access Administrator', 'Wizard User' or 'Click and drag Expert'

>> Edited by fatsteve on Thursday 13th November 17:26

[plotloss]

Not sure about that one, we had a DBA team on a project I worked on in Seattle and they were properly hardcore database designers.

Real databases shouldnt need one anyway...

[JonRB]

Sorry, but Ess-Queue-Elle takes far too long to say.
I've always said "Sequel". What's so bad about that?

[agent006]

JonRB said:

Sorry, but Ess-Queue-Elle takes far too long to say. I've always said "Sequel". What's so bad about that?

It's just deeply irritating and shows contempt for the person you're speaking to.

[JonRB]

agent006 said:

It's just deeply irritating and shows contempt for the person you're speaking to.

Eh? I don't understand why.

I've been an IT professional for over 10 years and in fact wrote my first SQL query in 1990, and I've never heard of people getting upset over pronunciation.

[agent006]

Just a personal view of mine. Shortening words in coversations and correspndance shows you can't be bothered to use the long version as the other conversee itsn't worth the effort.

Yes, i'm very odd.

[JonRB]

agent006 said:

Just a personal view of mine. Shortening words in coversations and correspndance shows you can't be bothered to use the long version as the other conversee itsn't worth the effort.

Most developers I know will use the shortest acronym possible. Hence "olay" for OLE*, "bump" for BMP, "asp" (like the snake) for ASP, etc. Most developers hate having to talk about HTML as there isn't a short way of saying it and you have to say "aitch-tee-emm-elle".

You'd have had a nightmare with the conversation I had with an agent today - "Yep, I've got the skills your client is looking for - VC++ under Win32, MFC, COM, STL, ATL, UML, XML, HTML, SQL, ASP. Yes, I have some TCP/IP WinSock too"

However, I assure you that should we ever meet I will do my utmost to say "ess-queue-elle" in front of you because I'm actually quite a nice chap who doesn't like upsetting people. Much.

(* I used to say "oh-elle-eee" until I went to a Microsoft developer conference and discovered the Microsoft people giving the seminars were saying "olay". I figured they probably knew what they were talking about so henceforth called it "olay".)

[agent006]

It's not something that rules my life, just a little annoyance, like the way PC world put an appostrophe in PCs on their big sign in every store. Annoying, but nothing to shout about.

oh and i'm an IT Operations person, so speaking to developers is something reserved for special occasions, catastrophic server failures and the like.

>> Edited by agent006 on Thursday 13th November 23:40

[sybaseian]

agent006 said:

It's not something that rules my life, just a little annoyance, like the way PC world put an appostrophe in PCs on their big sign in every store. Annoying, but nothing to shout about. oh and i'm an IT Operations person, so speaking to developers is something reserved for special occasions, catastrophic server failures and the like. >> Edited by agent006 on Thursday 13th November 23:40

Developers generally don't deal with catastropic server failures - that's SAs

[sybaseian]

puggit said:

I've just carried out a SQL disaster recovery - great fun with an American on the other end who didn't know what she was doing and couldn't hear me in the server room. 90 mins later I got fedup and Webexed in - SQL back up and running in 10 mins Anyone got a job for me?

Yes if you have 10 years DBA experience of Sybase ASE, Oracle 9i financials, Replication Server, Unix (HPUX, Solaris, AIX, Linux), NT, etc and a Computer 1st from Oxford or Cambridge and also 10 years experience in Financial institutions........

No?

[agent006]

sybaseian said:

agent006 said: It's not something that rules my life, just a little annoyance, like the way PC world put an appostrophe in PCs on their big sign in every store. Annoying, but nothing to shout about. oh and i'm an IT Operations person, so speaking to developers is something reserved for special occasions, catastrophic server failures and the like. >> Edited by agent006 on Thursday 13th November 23:40 Developers generally don't deal with catastropic server failures - that's SAs

Yes, that's me. I do however have to tell people when it happens.

[puggit]

sybaseian said:

puggit said: I've just carried out a SQL disaster recovery - great fun with an American on the other end who didn't know what she was doing and couldn't hear me in the server room. 90 mins later I got fedup and Webexed in - SQL back up and running in 10 mins Anyone got a job for me? Yes if you have 10 years DBA experience of Sybase ASE, Oracle 9i financials, Replication Server, Unix (HPUX, Solaris, AIX, Linux), NT, etc and a Computer 1st from Oxford or Cambridge and also 10 years experience in Financial institutions........ No?

Nope - but I can recover a SQL server when all the SAs who ring me can't