Brakes Screwed on Z3m - HELP Quick solution needed!

[Mtomlin]

Just landed back from Dubai today, got the car booked in for simota and chip work at evolve this Thursday so was well excited.

I decided to take it out today for a little run, got out on the country lanes and the car felt a little heavy and the steering was vibrating. Turns out the front left pad was jammed onto the pad slightly and was rubbing, a seized / well rusted piston is the cause.

There was stacks of smoke when I stopped and the brake disc was bright red! , I honestly thought the car was going to go up in smoke.

Anyone got any ideas on a quick solution to the problem as Im only here for a few days and still want to meet the Thursday appointment at evolve.

I managed to get the AA out who stripped back the caliper and found the seal had gone around the piston which caused it to rust and stick.

I beleive I need a new caliper and pads as it completley cooked them!

I had to drive back without using the brakes incase they jam on again.

Thanks

Matt

[belleair302]

If you want new parts at a reasonable price call Motormec in Lowestoft for OEM BMW bits. They can deliver quickly.

For a rebuild of calipers and any additional advice re brakes etc call Gerry @ Phoenix Motorsport in Camberley Surrey.

[Mtomlin]

thanks for this, any one know of places near to Cambridge?

[belleair302]

Re supplying or repairing calipers etc?

[belleair302]

Give Darren Farrel a shout. He is in the Colchester / Braintree area but knows his stuff re M's and I am sure will help.

Darjac Racing is the company name.

Contact details are : [e-mail] or 07807 689538

I would also suggest these guys who are on your doorstep www.benstenmotors.co.uk

Edited by belleair302 on Tuesday 24th March 22:20

[mikez328]

Your car has obviously been standing without use for many, many months. The rubber piston seals have perished. It should not cost more than £50 for a local garage to remove the calipers, fit new seals & re-bleed the brakes. Anybody who tells you else is to be avoided. The actual seals cost no more than 5 Quid.....

Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 25th March 10:56

[E30M3SE]

mikez328 said:

Your car has obviously been standing without use for many, many months. The rubber piston seals have perished. It should not cost more than £50 for a local garage to remove the calipers, fit new seals & re-bleed the brakes. Anybody who tells you else is to be avoided.

OP Said said:

Turns out the front left pad was jammed onto the pad slightly and was rubbing, a seized / well rusted piston is the cause.

How is a new seal going to free off a corroded piston Mike?

The caliper needs to be re-built using a new piston and seals, or replaced or the same thing will happen again.

[mikez328]

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

Your car has obviously been standing without use for many, many months. The rubber piston seals have perished. It should not cost more than £50 for a local garage to remove the calipers, fit new seals & re-bleed the brakes. Anybody who tells you else is to be avoided.

OP Said said:

Turns out the front left pad was jammed onto the pad slightly and was rubbing, a seized / well rusted piston is the cause.

How is a new seal going to free off a corroded piston Mike?

The caliper needs to be re-built using a new piston and seals, or replaced or the same thing will happen again.

It's very simple as any mechanic will tell you (as you don't know very much about cars). The corroded piston is prised out by a couple of screwdrivers. The corrosion is sanded off using 1200 grit wet & dry sandpaper. The piston (with new rubber seal) is pushed back into the caliper which is then re-bolted to the strut. Re-Bleed the brakes - end of story.

By the way, where do idiots like you come from? You must be from my childrens generation & spend all your time & money watching TV rather than sorting your life out!!

There must be hundreds of people in their 40's/50's laughing their heads off at you.

[E30M3SE]

mikez328 said:

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

Your car has obviously been standing without use for many, many months. The rubber piston seals have perished. It should not cost more than £50 for a local garage to remove the calipers, fit new seals & re-bleed the brakes. Anybody who tells you else is to be avoided.

OP Said said:

Turns out the front left pad was jammed onto the pad slightly and was rubbing, a seized / well rusted piston is the cause.

How is a new seal going to free off a corroded piston Mike?

The caliper needs to be re-built using a new piston and seals, or replaced or the same thing will happen again.

It's very simple as any mechanic will tell you (as you don't know very much about cars). The corroded piston is prised out by a couple of screwdrivers. The corrosion is sanded off using 1200 grit wet & dry sandpaper. The piston (with new rubber seal) is pushed back into the caliper which is then re-bolted to the strut. Re-Bleed the brakes - end of story.

By the way, where do idiots like you come from? You must be from my childrens generation & spend all your time & money watching TV rather than sorting your life out!!

There must be hundreds of people in their 40's/50's laughing their heads off at you.

If there is an idiot on this thread Mike it's YOU! Re-read your original post, where in that post have you mentioned removing the piston, you've said simply replace the seal......... who's the idiot now?

....and if you really want to start with the personal insults then lets crack on.............

[E30M3SE]

OP £20-ish buys your a repair kit from the a BMW dealer, consists of a new piston and two seals.

[nottyash]

Are the discs damaged? if they were glowing red they may have warped.

As for calipers in my experiance I just change the whole thing. Its not worth the hassle messing around.

I bought a caliper for a 328i E36 for just 50 quid, from our local motor factors (Andrew page)

Euro car parts do these parts too.

Edited by nottyash on Wednesday 25th March 12:54

[darreni]

E30M3SE said:

OP £20-ish buys your a repair kit from the a BMW dealer, consists of a new piston and two seals.

My old M3 evo had the same problem, sanding the piston will sort it for a short while, but will never be as good as a new piston.

IIRC the repair kit was about 17 quid, but was seals only, no piston.

[E30M3SE]

darreni said:

E30M3SE said:

OP £20-ish buys your a repair kit from the a BMW dealer, consists of a new piston and two seals.

My old M3 evo had the same problem, sanding the piston will sort it for a short while, but will never be as good as a new piston.

IIRC the repair kit was about 17 quid, but was seals only, no piston.

Precisely my point, it's a short term fix, and if your paying someone else to do it why pay twice.

ETK shows three parts to the kit, so needs confirmation.

[mikez328]

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

Your car has obviously been standing without use for many, many months. The rubber piston seals have perished. It should not cost more than £50 for a local garage to remove the calipers, fit new seals & re-bleed the brakes. Anybody who tells you else is to be avoided.

OP Said said:

Turns out the front left pad was jammed onto the pad slightly and was rubbing, a seized / well rusted piston is the cause.

How is a new seal going to free off a corroded piston Mike?

Lets. - You start & I'll follow....

The caliper needs to be re-built using a new piston and seals, or replaced or the same thing will happen again.

It's very simple as any mechanic will tell you (as you don't know very much about cars). The corroded piston is prised out by a couple of screwdrivers. The corrosion is sanded off using 1200 grit wet & dry sandpaper. The piston (with new rubber seal) is pushed back into the caliper which is then re-bolted to the strut. Re-Bleed the brakes - end of story.

By the way, where do idiots like you come from? You must be from my childrens generation & spend all your time & money watching TV rather than sorting your life out!!

There must be hundreds of people in their 40's/50's laughing their heads off at you.

If there is an idiot on this thread Mike it's YOU! Re-read your original post, where in that post have you mentioned removing the piston, you've said simply replace the seal......... who's the idiot now?

....and if you really want to start with the personal insults then lets crack on.............

Right, you start & I'll follow....

Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 25th March 13:49

[E30M3SE]

mikez328 said:

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

Your car has obviously been standing without use for many, many months. The rubber piston seals have perished. It should not cost more than £50 for a local garage to remove the calipers, fit new seals & re-bleed the brakes. Anybody who tells you else is to be avoided.

OP Said said:

Turns out the front left pad was jammed onto the pad slightly and was rubbing, a seized / well rusted piston is the cause.

How is a new seal going to free off a corroded piston Mike?

Lets. - You start & I'll follow....

The caliper needs to be re-built using a new piston and seals, or replaced or the same thing will happen again.

It's very simple as any mechanic will tell you (as you don't know very much about cars). The corroded piston is prised out by a couple of screwdrivers. The corrosion is sanded off using 1200 grit wet & dry sandpaper. The piston (with new rubber seal) is pushed back into the caliper which is then re-bolted to the strut. Re-Bleed the brakes - end of story.

By the way, where do idiots like you come from? You must be from my childrens generation & spend all your time & money watching TV rather than sorting your life out!!

There must be hundreds of people in their 40's/50's laughing their heads off at you.

If there is an idiot on this thread Mike it's YOU! Re-read your original post, where in that post have you mentioned removing the piston, you've said simply replace the seal......... who's the idiot now?

....and if you really want to start with the personal insults then lets crack on.............

Right, you start & I'll follow....

Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 25th March 13:49

You've already started, Mike.

I'm just wondering how long before your start deleting your posts................

[mikez328]

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

Your car has obviously been standing without use for many, many months. The rubber piston seals have perished. It should not cost more than £50 for a local garage to remove the calipers, fit new seals & re-bleed the brakes. Anybody who tells you else is to be avoided.

OP Said said:

Turns out the front left pad was jammed onto the pad slightly and was rubbing, a seized / well rusted piston is the cause.

How is a new seal going to free off a corroded piston Mike?

Lets. - You start & I'll follow....

The caliper needs to be re-built using a new piston and seals, or replaced or the same thing will happen again.

It's very simple as any mechanic will tell you (as you don't know very much about cars). The corroded piston is prised out by a couple of screwdrivers. The corrosion is sanded off using 1200 grit wet & dry sandpaper. The piston (with new rubber seal) is pushed back into the caliper which is then re-bolted to the strut. Re-Bleed the brakes - end of story.

By the way, where do idiots like you come from? You must be from my childrens generation & spend all your time & money watching TV rather than sorting your life out!!

There must be hundreds of people in their 40's/50's laughing their heads off at you.

If there is an idiot on this thread Mike it's YOU! Re-read your original post, where in that post have you mentioned removing the piston, you've said simply replace the seal......... who's the idiot now?

....and if you really want to start with the personal insults then lets crack on.............

Right, you start & I'll follow....

Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 25th March 13:49

You've already started, Mike.

I'm just wondering how long before your start deleting your posts................

Not long. Only when it becomes litigous...

[E30M3SE]

mikez328 said:

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

E30M3SE said:

mikez328 said:

Your car has obviously been standing without use for many, many months. The rubber piston seals have perished. It should not cost more than £50 for a local garage to remove the calipers, fit new seals & re-bleed the brakes. Anybody who tells you else is to be avoided.

OP Said said:

Turns out the front left pad was jammed onto the pad slightly and was rubbing, a seized / well rusted piston is the cause.

How is a new seal going to free off a corroded piston Mike?

Lets. - You start & I'll follow....

The caliper needs to be re-built using a new piston and seals, or replaced or the same thing will happen again.

It's very simple as any mechanic will tell you (as you don't know very much about cars). The corroded piston is prised out by a couple of screwdrivers. The corrosion is sanded off using 1200 grit wet & dry sandpaper. The piston (with new rubber seal) is pushed back into the caliper which is then re-bolted to the strut. Re-Bleed the brakes - end of story.

By the way, where do idiots like you come from? You must be from my childrens generation & spend all your time & money watching TV rather than sorting your life out!!

There must be hundreds of people in their 40's/50's laughing their heads off at you.

If there is an idiot on this thread Mike it's YOU! Re-read your original post, where in that post have you mentioned removing the piston, you've said simply replace the seal......... who's the idiot now?

....and if you really want to start with the personal insults then lets crack on.............

Right, you start & I'll follow....

Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 25th March 13:49

You've already started, Mike.

I'm just wondering how long before your start deleting your posts................

Not long. Only when it becomes litigous...

[mmm-five]

belleair302 said:

Give Darren Farrel a shout. He is in the Colchester / Braintree area but knows his stuff re M's and I am sure will help.

Darjac Racing is the company name.

Contact details are : [e-mail] or 07807 689538

Also got the front page of his new (only) website up now - http://darjac-racing.co.uk/

[Mtomlin]

Guys thanks for your advice

I have ordered two brand new Calipers ( as cant be arsed with the same happening with the other one), 2 brand new discs and new pads for the front.

the car has done 60 miles since January, its been driven fortnightly and unfortunatly seems to just be one of those things on a car thats 8 years old.

Just had to put back the remap and simota which was booked for tomorrow!

Tim Spencer BMW Specialist in Duxford Cambridge is doing the job for me and was ultra helpful!

[belleair302]

I had a set of disks warp on my M5 within 60 miles of being purchased / installed.

If you are not using the car, make sure they are dry before putting it inside a garage, if you can store the car in a carcoon. Also store in gear and do not leave the handbrake on.

Better yet have the car driven weekly just to keep the disks dry and to not allow the calipers to sieze.