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my clutch pedal only depressess about 100mm (4") and won't go all the way to floor. the last time this happened was a few months ago, and was a seized
slave cylinder, it also happened last year, that time was a seized master
cylinder,
its now happening again, so i took off both cylinders, and none were seized, any ideas,
please be gentle with me
slave cylinder, it also happened last year, that time was a seized master
cylinder,
its now happening again, so i took off both cylinders, and none were seized, any ideas,
please be gentle with me
cheers chris, when i said be gentle with me, i was hoping you was going
to say, " ah simple, that would be the slave cylinder fuse"
just thinking now, do you reckon they might just of needed bleeding,
when i push the pedal down it goes down about 100mm (4") then its solid,
maybe it's the piston gone all the way in, and the fluid "should" of done its work by then, because i have'nt drove it, im not sure what it should be like. whats everyone elses like when clutch is depressed, a few example chaps
please,
to say, " ah simple, that would be the slave cylinder fuse"
just thinking now, do you reckon they might just of needed bleeding,
when i push the pedal down it goes down about 100mm (4") then its solid,
maybe it's the piston gone all the way in, and the fluid "should" of done its work by then, because i have'nt drove it, im not sure what it should be like. whats everyone elses like when clutch is depressed, a few example chaps
please,
I'm just trying to rack my brains - I assume it is all still together?
If you haven't used the car for some time the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel and pressure plate - if you can try wedging the pedal down as far as you can and leave it for a few days to see if it frees off.
You'll probably have to make something with a piece of wood & wedge it under the steering wheel - put some rag around the wheel or something or you'll end up marking it.
You could also try putting it in gear, getting someone to stand on the clutch pedal and rock the car backwards and forwards as hard as you can (without the engine running) to see if it frees up.
If you haven't used the car for some time the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel and pressure plate - if you can try wedging the pedal down as far as you can and leave it for a few days to see if it frees off.
You'll probably have to make something with a piece of wood & wedge it under the steering wheel - put some rag around the wheel or something or you'll end up marking it.
You could also try putting it in gear, getting someone to stand on the clutch pedal and rock the car backwards and forwards as hard as you can (without the engine running) to see if it frees up.
If both cylinders are off then try levering the clutch fulcrum arm by hand (I used to use a breaker bar and wooden pad to the chassis). I did this during the body off repair every week to ensure the clutch didn't stick to the flywheel. At the least this will show you if you have full fulcrum arm movement.
If you do have full movement then try to wedge the arm in the disengaged position (fully forward of the V6). Put the car in 1st gear and push it backwards. If the clutch is disengaged you should be able to move the car, if the clutch is stuck then the gearbox will prevent motion. This should narrow it down.
If you do have full movement then try to wedge the arm in the disengaged position (fully forward of the V6). Put the car in 1st gear and push it backwards. If the clutch is disengaged you should be able to move the car, if the clutch is stuck then the gearbox will prevent motion. This should narrow it down.
My pedal goes alot further than your 4 inches. It feels like full travel from top until just off the floor of the car. For the fulcrum arm it will move until it is about 1-1.5cm from the front of the hole it sticks out of on the gearbox.
If the clutch is stuck to the flywheel then the "bible" has some suggestions on how to release it, but be careful you can damage other components trying and the only really safe way is box out.
Mark
If the clutch is stuck to the flywheel then the "bible" has some suggestions on how to release it, but be careful you can damage other components trying and the only really safe way is box out.
Mark
mine's a S2,
think i'll put the cylinders back on, fill with fluid to see if it was
just air in the system.
if no joy, i'll try all above, starting with the more gentle stuff,
with fingers crossed, then gradually work towards a big scaffold bar,
or sledge hammer hehe,
i'll keep you informed, but if you think of anything else, fire away
and i'll add it to the list, cheers guys
think i'll put the cylinders back on, fill with fluid to see if it was
just air in the system.
if no joy, i'll try all above, starting with the more gentle stuff,
with fingers crossed, then gradually work towards a big scaffold bar,
or sledge hammer hehe,
i'll keep you informed, but if you think of anything else, fire away
and i'll add it to the list, cheers guys
sorted at last, a bit of a bodge, will redo when i'm older hehe.
the problem was the master cylinder, the piston spring had broken into four
pieces, took me all day to find this out, basically, where the spring would've pushed the piston out, then compressed fluid pushes it back a bit, leaving plenty of fluid to do its thing, this was'nt happening,
bit of a misunderstanding, the pedal don't go to the floor, it only goes
about 100mm (4") the length of the cylinder, thats enough if sufficiant fluid is there. my prob was when depressed, there was'nt enough fluid to do anything, because the piston was already near the end of its travel,
anyway sorry to bore you all, cheers for all the help & ideas
hope your day was ok
the problem was the master cylinder, the piston spring had broken into four
pieces, took me all day to find this out, basically, where the spring would've pushed the piston out, then compressed fluid pushes it back a bit, leaving plenty of fluid to do its thing, this was'nt happening,
bit of a misunderstanding, the pedal don't go to the floor, it only goes
about 100mm (4") the length of the cylinder, thats enough if sufficiant fluid is there. my prob was when depressed, there was'nt enough fluid to do anything, because the piston was already near the end of its travel,
anyway sorry to bore you all, cheers for all the help & ideas
hope your day was ok
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