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It's far more likely that BMW will release a successor to the M1 which is powered by either the S65 or the S85 in the same mould as Audi and its R8 I should think.
It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
asbo said:
It's far more likely that BMW will release a successor to the M1 which is powered by either the S65 or the S85 in the same mould as Audi and its R8 I should think.
It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
This. Immediately.It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
I actually really like the R8. But I think it's high time (if a bad time, economically speaking) that BMW did it some serious injury with a proper mid-engined tribute to the first M-car.
Amen.
Well it's more likely I should think.
The problem with BMW is Porsche.
Our boys from Munich have yet to create a credible alternative to the original supercar. Now that Audi has had the instructi... sorry, gumption to bring out the R8 to seriously tackle Stuttgart, I see it as only a matter of time before BMW follow suit with a package capable of wiping the smile form Herr Porsche's face.
I guess the problem with a fast coupe/roadster in the £40k bracket is that for 90% of people, there is only one car to have when you reach this sort of liquidity. And dare I say it, the offering from the other side is still the finer steer, if not accompanied by as much wallop.
Bring on the M8(?)
The problem with BMW is Porsche.
Our boys from Munich have yet to create a credible alternative to the original supercar. Now that Audi has had the instructi... sorry, gumption to bring out the R8 to seriously tackle Stuttgart, I see it as only a matter of time before BMW follow suit with a package capable of wiping the smile form Herr Porsche's face.
I guess the problem with a fast coupe/roadster in the £40k bracket is that for 90% of people, there is only one car to have when you reach this sort of liquidity. And dare I say it, the offering from the other side is still the finer steer, if not accompanied by as much wallop.
Bring on the M8(?)
Diesel Meister said:
asbo said:
It's far more likely that BMW will release a successor to the M1 which is powered by either the S65 or the S85 in the same mould as Audi and its R8 I should think.
It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
This. Immediately.It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
I actually really like the R8. But I think it's high time (if a bad time, economically speaking) that BMW did it some serious injury with a proper mid-engined tribute to the first M-car.
Amen.
t financially & may very well go bust this year without a bailout from the German Government. Nobody is immune.The R8 is a financial disaster. Why pay £80K+ for a car that will be £50K after 6 months. Financial suicide IMO. Lets see if I am right in June 2009?
There are so many high performance cars out there that can equal an R8 for 1/3 of the cost seconhand.
mikez328 said:
Diesel Meister said:
asbo said:
It's far more likely that BMW will release a successor to the M1 which is powered by either the S65 or the S85 in the same mould as Audi and its R8 I should think.
It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
This. Immediately.It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
I actually really like the R8. But I think it's high time (if a bad time, economically speaking) that BMW did it some serious injury with a proper mid-engined tribute to the first M-car.
Amen.
t financially & may very well go bust this year without a bailout from the German Government. Nobody is immune.The R8 is a financial disaster. Why pay £80K+ for a car that will be £50K after 6 months. Financial suicide IMO. Lets see if I am right in June 2009?
There are so many high performance cars out there that can equal an R8 for 1/3 of the cost seconhand.
mikez328 said:
Diesel Meister said:
asbo said:
It's far more likely that BMW will release a successor to the M1 which is powered by either the S65 or the S85 in the same mould as Audi and its R8 I should think.
It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
This. Immediately.It will be a more profitable car than the M-powered variants of the Z3 and Z4, which have only ever sold in relatively low volumes.
I actually really like the R8. But I think it's high time (if a bad time, economically speaking) that BMW did it some serious injury with a proper mid-engined tribute to the first M-car.
Amen.
t financially & may very well go bust this year without a bailout from the German Government. Nobody is immune.The R8 is a financial disaster. Why pay £80K+ for a car that will be £50K after 6 months. Financial suicide IMO. Lets see if I am right in June 2009?
There are so many high performance cars out there that can equal an R8 for 1/3 of the cost seconhand.
KENZ said:
I do think BMW are having a tough time at the moment. I seem to remember reading that their margins are a lot less than even toyota and honda..nevermind Porsche and Merc
I hope BMW keep producing the best cars/engines!!
I have to say that given what I saw at the Geneva show I have a real sense for BMW of a company that has lost its way.I hope BMW keep producing the best cars/engines!!
The newer models all seem to be a bit "bland" or filling niches that don't really exist.
I see problems ahead....
boobles said:
Nano2nd said:
ian in lancs said:
Reminder to self - look at who is posting before reading what is posted!
LOL i though the same thing 
i read the post and thought what a load of horse ****, then scrolled up to look at the name and surpise surpise 
Seems like Mike is building a fan club on here!
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