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after last years plod attack on rally gb and this years similar attack(yet to be reported in the press).
isnt it time the fia said "if you dont want us we wont come" im sure cardiff will not miss the money,it being such an opulent place.
and given that the rally gb now only lasts 4 minutes and has 2 stages pehaps it should move to the isle of man.they have experience with large motorsport events,they know how to close a road,they know how to cope with large numbers of people arriving for a short time,they are actually friendly(unlike the welsh)
its time to move on.
rally gb should be rally manx
isnt it time the fia said "if you dont want us we wont come" im sure cardiff will not miss the money,it being such an opulent place.
and given that the rally gb now only lasts 4 minutes and has 2 stages pehaps it should move to the isle of man.they have experience with large motorsport events,they know how to close a road,they know how to cope with large numbers of people arriving for a short time,they are actually friendly(unlike the welsh)
its time to move on.
rally gb should be rally manx
The Rally started going down hill a few years ago when they just limited the whole thing to Wales instead of going all over the country, some of the best stages I have ever been to were up north in the Keilder Forest.
I also think the current format encourages spectators to go zooming around Wales in the persuit of the drivers due to the lack of stages and the time spent on them. There was no rush before, you could easily get to a stage well before the drivers and get yourself a good spot and see 2 or 3 stages a day.
If I wanted to watch them racing around a man made bowl then I would go to Lydden and watch the old group B rally cars, not that they do anymore, which is a shame.
I think motorsport has gone down hill (with the exception of GT's) somewhat in the last 5 years, yes there are the big meets that there always were, but the smaller ones, rally cross etc have died a death, I can remember watching rally cross almost every other weekend on the telly or at a circuit when I was a kid, you just don't get it anymore.
Rally GB is a joke now, Touring cars which were probably one of the best spectator sports ever is simply boring. It's all too expensive and revolves around someone making a huge profit.
Oh well.
I also think the current format encourages spectators to go zooming around Wales in the persuit of the drivers due to the lack of stages and the time spent on them. There was no rush before, you could easily get to a stage well before the drivers and get yourself a good spot and see 2 or 3 stages a day.
If I wanted to watch them racing around a man made bowl then I would go to Lydden and watch the old group B rally cars, not that they do anymore, which is a shame.
I think motorsport has gone down hill (with the exception of GT's) somewhat in the last 5 years, yes there are the big meets that there always were, but the smaller ones, rally cross etc have died a death, I can remember watching rally cross almost every other weekend on the telly or at a circuit when I was a kid, you just don't get it anymore.
Rally GB is a joke now, Touring cars which were probably one of the best spectator sports ever is simply boring. It's all too expensive and revolves around someone making a huge profit.
Oh well.
Neil_H said:
...it looks like there is a bunch of killjoy jobsworths at the root of this case.
No change there then
This whole thing smacks of 'publicity stunt', lets bag a load of rally drivers for speeding so we can show everyone who's boss.
Pathetic.
Well it sure as hell isnt the cops who are the boss!
dougal said:
The Rally started going down hill a few years ago when they just limited the whole thing to Wales instead of going all over the country, some of the best stages I have ever been to were up north in the Keilder Forest.
I also think the current format encourages spectators to go zooming around Wales in the persuit of the drivers due to the lack of stages and the time spent on them. There was no rush before, you could easily get to a stage well before the drivers and get yourself a good spot and see 2 or 3 stages a day.
If I wanted to watch them racing around a man made bowl then I would go to Lydden and watch the old group B rally cars, not that they do anymore, which is a shame.
I think motorsport has gone down hill (with the exception of GT's) somewhat in the last 5 years, yes there are the big meets that there always were, but the smaller ones, rally cross etc have died a death, I can remember watching rally cross almost every other weekend on the telly or at a circuit when I was a kid, you just don't get it anymore.
Rally GB is a joke now, Touring cars which were probably one of the best spectator sports ever is simply boring. It's all too expensive and revolves around someone making a huge profit.
Oh well.
I reckon you've hit the nail pretty much square on the head.
An additional gripe I have about the whole rally being staged in Wales is that it's an absolute b*gger to get in and out of. Always takes me hours to get in and out out as soon as there's the slightest hint of traffic.
And it's not just Rally GB thats gone down hill, it's the entire WRC championship.
The news rules for third driver that were then dismissed in favour of 2 extra events?!?
WTF are you playing at Richards?
Consequently the manufacturers pull the plug. Who's left next year? Pug, Scooby, Citroen, Mitsu, that's it isn't it? Ford are technically bankrupt so I can't see them forking out more dosh on events that are an unknown quantity (hence unknown cost). Skoda not competing in all events. . .
Might as well rename it the France V Japan 4WD cup and leave 'em to it. Not something I'm particularly interested in watching.
Ta.
The news rules for third driver that were then dismissed in favour of 2 extra events?!?
WTF are you playing at Richards?
Consequently the manufacturers pull the plug. Who's left next year? Pug, Scooby, Citroen, Mitsu, that's it isn't it? Ford are technically bankrupt so I can't see them forking out more dosh on events that are an unknown quantity (hence unknown cost). Skoda not competing in all events. . .
Might as well rename it the France V Japan 4WD cup and leave 'em to it. Not something I'm particularly interested in watching.
Ta.
Autosport said:
Governing body commissions report following speeding fines
Motorsport's governing body, the FIA, says that the spate of prosecutions for speeding on Rally GB could force it to re-examine south Wales' suitability as a venue for the event.
Several British daily newspapers have carried sizeable stories this morning, outlining how a host of world rally stars received fines and even driving bans yesterday on the basis of offences committed during last year's running of the event.
But at last weekend's championship showdown, the South Wales police again used a number of mobile speed cameras to catch speeding fans and competitors. Despite the fact that the event is now backed by the Welsh Development Agency, the FIA has indicated that it intends to re-assess whether the region's roads have become too dangerous to host the large amount of traffic and rally machinery over three days.An FIA spokesman said: "Road safety is a matter of the utmost importance to the FIA. The actions of the police and magistrates seem to indicate that this is an exceptionally dangerous location for a rally. The FIA has therefore asked its safety delegate for a report on the suitability of the local public roads for a World Championship event."
Many WRC insiders now believe that Rally GB is run under the harshest police regime in the entire series – beyond that of Australia, which has traditionally seen the most police activity.
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