M6 SMG Red Cog Of Death
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Well driving home this afternoon blipped it down 2 gears and up it came RCOD................
" Transmission Fault ........Please Drive At Reduced Speed..........Once The Engine is Switched Off It Will Not Restart "
Got to a stop light and it juddered to a stop and stalled .
Managed to restart it in neutral , but couldn't select any gears.The wife jumped out and pushed me and the kids off the lights.
We have been recovered back home and so now i have to call the dealer to collect it in the morning.
Nick
" Transmission Fault ........Please Drive At Reduced Speed..........Once The Engine is Switched Off It Will Not Restart "
Got to a stop light and it juddered to a stop and stalled .
Managed to restart it in neutral , but couldn't select any gears.The wife jumped out and pushed me and the kids off the lights.
We have been recovered back home and so now i have to call the dealer to collect it in the morning.
Nick
[quote=M3 > 535D] 
Hope you get it sorted, OP.Yep she just hopped straight out when the lights changed and started pushing...all 4ft 10 of her.....little beauty .
Nick
Much respect to your wife. Mine's 5' 1 and you dont mess with her either!!Pork said:
JDMc said:
Got to be the first to say it....
You made the wife push the car.... Hero
You made the wife push the car.... Hero
Hope you get it sorted, OP.
Nick
Good luck with the repair
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t - hope it's ok - fingers crossed.
I have to say, the thuds coming from the transmission sometimes make me wince; had one this morning, a completely innocuous 1st - 2nd job, lifting off ever so slightly, sympathetic revs and 'clonk!'
I'll never change my mind on this and BMW know it - awesome car and SMG III does suit Stuka tactics - but around town/'on the urban cycle' it's just horrid.
t - hope it's ok - fingers crossed.I have to say, the thuds coming from the transmission sometimes make me wince; had one this morning, a completely innocuous 1st - 2nd job, lifting off ever so slightly, sympathetic revs and 'clonk!'
I'll never change my mind on this and BMW know it - awesome car and SMG III does suit Stuka tactics - but around town/'on the urban cycle' it's just horrid.
Ashok said:
Hmm.. yes.. HORRID is certainly how I would describe SMG
And you should know.......tis well documented all over the tiniternet , the amount of problems that you had.....!!Nick
As a ps ..... the " VW Passat cc " that mondial/avis left as a courtesy car isn't half bad to be honest.
M3 535D said:
Ashok said:
Hmm.. yes.. HORRID is certainly how I would describe SMG
And you should know.......tis well documented all over the tiniternet , the amount of problems that you had.....!!Nick
As a ps ..... the " VW Passat cc " that mondial/avis left as a courtesy car isn't half bad to be honest.
As soon as you start thinking like that, it'll all end in tears. Next you'll be "unable to justify the M, the passat is a pefreclty good car", then it'll all go wrong. I had a 58 plate 325d the other day as a load car which, I must say, was a great little car. It got me thinking that the M is just excess......prompted by my missus saying "that new ones a lovely colour", I snapped out of it. The Passat/325 is a car. The M's are so much more
You can get SMG III working to an acceptable degree of nominal clunkiness and it definitely feels more amenable to playing smoothball in the default P400 mode, afaic. However, you have to be in tune with the V10's loadings and how warm (or otherwise) the powerplant is: for example, I have a different approach to certain shift techniques depending on road gradient and speed. Might sound mad but it's perfectly demonstrable.
At the same time, you need a fair amount of time to meld with the S.O.B but on a balmy spring jaunt yem as I experienced yesterday, even a mild schlepp in shackle free, steroid-on mode can be a Tubi zinging path to autorighteousness.
Tbh, even the old E39 M5 can be a total pig until it's warmed up with a recalcitrance to smooth progress at the throttle which almost smacks of fuel interruption.
At the same time, you need a fair amount of time to meld with the S.O.B but on a balmy spring jaunt yem as I experienced yesterday, even a mild schlepp in shackle free, steroid-on mode can be a Tubi zinging path to autorighteousness.
Tbh, even the old E39 M5 can be a total pig until it's warmed up with a recalcitrance to smooth progress at the throttle which almost smacks of fuel interruption.
Well i got a call today from the dealer asking for my permission to " strip the gearbox " as the diagnostics were showing a burnt out clutch......, and that i had to be made aware of the fact that this is attributed to driver error and would not be covered under the warranty.
So i say....well considering that the clutch is computer controlled and i have NO control over it , how ? can that be attributed to me ,and as i have only done 1000 miles of the 37000 on the clock was this still the case.?
Apparently they say that this is a " standard line " used for burnt out clutches just incase they have been used on track days.
So are BMW now saying that an M6 is not suitable to be used on a track day....or should we all buy a 7 series and get a pipe and some slippers.
I am awaiting a further call.
Nick
So i say....well considering that the clutch is computer controlled and i have NO control over it , how ? can that be attributed to me ,and as i have only done 1000 miles of the 37000 on the clock was this still the case.?
Apparently they say that this is a " standard line " used for burnt out clutches just incase they have been used on track days.
So are BMW now saying that an M6 is not suitable to be used on a track day....or should we all buy a 7 series and get a pipe and some slippers.
I am awaiting a further call.
Nick
[quote=M3 > 535D]Well i got a call today from the dealer asking for my permission to " strip the gearbox " as the diagnostics were showing a burnt out clutch......, and that i had to be made aware of the fact that this is attributed to driver error and would not be covered under the warranty.
So i say....well considering that the clutch is computer controlled and i have NO control over it , how ? can that be attributed to me ,and as i have only done 1000 miles of the 37000 on the clock was this still the case.?
Apparently they say that this is a " standard line " used for burnt out clutches just incase they have been used on track days.
So are BMW now saying that an M6 is not suitable to be used on a track day....or should we all buy a 7 series and get a pipe and some slippers.
I am awaiting a further call.
Nick
[/quote]Argue big-time. My clutch was giving me minor issues and I got it replaced. It's the dealer, not BMW bullstting you, I reckon. My dealer tried this kind of crap, but BMW came good. It's a fact of life that a very powerful car will go through clutches whether manual or SMG. Unless they expressly exclude from the warranty, it's their problem.
I do worry about the clutch in my DB9, particularly when doing a reverse hill start.
So i say....well considering that the clutch is computer controlled and i have NO control over it , how ? can that be attributed to me ,and as i have only done 1000 miles of the 37000 on the clock was this still the case.?
Apparently they say that this is a " standard line " used for burnt out clutches just incase they have been used on track days.
So are BMW now saying that an M6 is not suitable to be used on a track day....or should we all buy a 7 series and get a pipe and some slippers.
I am awaiting a further call.
Nick
[/quote]Argue big-time. My clutch was giving me minor issues and I got it replaced. It's the dealer, not BMW bulls
tting you, I reckon. My dealer tried this kind of crap, but BMW came good. It's a fact of life that a very powerful car will go through clutches whether manual or SMG. Unless they expressly exclude from the warranty, it's their problem.I do worry about the clutch in my DB9, particularly when doing a reverse hill start.
derestrictor said:
You can get SMG III working to an acceptable degree of nominal clunkiness and it definitely feels more amenable to playing smoothball in the default P400 mode, afaic. However, you have to be in tune with the V10's loadings and how warm (or otherwise) the powerplant is: for example, I have a different approach to certain shift techniques depending on road gradient and speed. Might sound mad but it's perfectly demonstrable.
At the same time, you need a fair amount of time to meld with the S.O.B but on a balmy spring jaunt yem as I experienced yesterday, even a mild schlepp in shackle free, steroid-on mode can be a Tubi zinging path to autorighteousness.
Tbh, even the old E39 M5 can be a total pig until it's warmed up with a recalcitrance to smooth progress at the throttle which almost smacks of fuel interruption.
exactly - the automation makes you forget what a normal gearbox feels like before the oil warms up. My Aston's gearbox is a pig until it warms up. After taht, it is butter-smooth.At the same time, you need a fair amount of time to meld with the S.O.B but on a balmy spring jaunt yem as I experienced yesterday, even a mild schlepp in shackle free, steroid-on mode can be a Tubi zinging path to autorighteousness.
Tbh, even the old E39 M5 can be a total pig until it's warmed up with a recalcitrance to smooth progress at the throttle which almost smacks of fuel interruption.
[quote=M3 > 535D]Well i got a call today from the dealer asking for my permission to " strip the gearbox " as the diagnostics were showing a burnt out clutch......, and that i had to be made aware of the fact that this is attributed to driver error and would not be covered under the warranty.
So i say....well considering that the clutch is computer controlled and i have NO control over it , how ? can that be attributed to me ,and as i have only done 1000 miles of the 37000 on the clock was this still the case.?
Apparently they say that this is a " standard line " used for burnt out clutches just incase they have been used on track days.
So are BMW now saying that an M6 is not suitable to be used on a track day....or should we all buy a 7 series and get a pipe and some slippers.
I am awaiting a further call.
Nick
[/quote]
Mine had covered about 40k miles when my clutch was replaced, did about 4/5k in it myself from when I bought it....argue like mad with the dealer, the dealer I used replaced the clutch pretty much without question...
So i say....well considering that the clutch is computer controlled and i have NO control over it , how ? can that be attributed to me ,and as i have only done 1000 miles of the 37000 on the clock was this still the case.?
Apparently they say that this is a " standard line " used for burnt out clutches just incase they have been used on track days.
So are BMW now saying that an M6 is not suitable to be used on a track day....or should we all buy a 7 series and get a pipe and some slippers.
I am awaiting a further call.
Nick
[/quote]
Mine had covered about 40k miles when my clutch was replaced, did about 4/5k in it myself from when I bought it....argue like mad with the dealer, the dealer I used replaced the clutch pretty much without question...
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