Do all Labour governments leave UK PLC on its knees?

Do all Labour governments leave UK PLC on its knees?

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jesusbuiltmycar

Original Poster:

4,872 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Has any Labour Governement left office with the UK econony in a better shape than when they entered office?

In my lifetime the last Labour government was palgued by strikes and the'Winter of Discontent' - they left the UK bankrupt having been begging to the IMF...

When the Conervatives were kicked out of office in 1997 UK PLC was in a far better state than when they entered office.

When Brown leaves this will not be the case.


funk odyssey

1,983 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
Has any Labour Governement left office with the UK econony in a better shape than when they entered office?

In my lifetime the last Labour government was palgued by strikes and the'Winter of Discontent' - they left the UK bankrupt having been begging to the IMF...

When the Conervatives were kicked out of office in 1997 UK PLC was in a far better state than when they entered office.

When Brown leaves this will not be the case.
another thread on this?

Orb the Impaler

1,881 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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The Conservatives could do worse than use the old "Labour isn't Working" poster from the last time the Shower of ste were in power...



ETA: Oh, they already did...



Mrs Orb(s) voted Labour in 1997 - I'll never let her forget it. My income has been smashed to bits due to IR35 and Indian sub-continent software developers (the latter may or may not be Labours policy fault, IR35 sure is though) and now I have no work at all.

Edited by Orb the Impaler on Wednesday 11th March 10:02

2something

2,145 posts

223 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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For a small consulting fee of say 200k, I will offer to improve the slogan by adding 'still' or 'again'

Don

28,378 posts

299 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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No.

Next.

The last great achievement I can think of was the NHS. A superb innovation. Long, long time ago...

jesusbuiltmycar

Original Poster:

4,872 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Orb the Impaler said:
Mrs Orb(s) voted Labour in 1997 - I'll never let her forget it. My income has been smashed to bits due to IR35 and Indian sub-continent software developers (the latter may or may not be Labours policy fault, IR35 sure is though) and now I have no work at all.

Edited by Orb the Impaler on Wednesday 11th March 10:02
A lot of firms are now discovering that "Indian sub-continent software developers" have got more expensive over the last year due to Sterlings weakness.....

Many have also found that maintaining the crap quality of software produced by them is neither easy nor coast effective...


sleep envy

62,260 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Orb the Impaler said:
Mrs Orb(s) voted Labour in 1997
sleeping with the enemy...

Orb the Impaler

1,881 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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sleep envy said:
Orb the Impaler said:
Mrs Orb(s) voted Labour in 1997
sleeping with the enemy...
Well she looks like Sharron Davies, has huge knockers, is paying for the house, my beer, my bikes, my SL500 - everything - at the moment, so I think I'm getting a good deal really biggrin

Cpn Jack Spanner

2,632 posts

220 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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sleep envy said:
Orb the Impaler said:
Mrs Orb(s) voted Labour in 1997
sleeping with the enemy...
Mrs (Ex) Spanner did the same. I told her not to, and I can honestly put my hand on my heart and say that Labour, with all their crap, have not done a single thing in their term of office that any right thinking man could say was either 'surprising' or 'unexpected'

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

263 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Orb the Impaler said:
sleep envy said:
Orb the Impaler said:
Mrs Orb(s) voted Labour in 1997
sleeping with the enemy...
Well she looks like Sharron Davies, has huge knockers, is paying for the house, my beer, my bikes, my SL500 - everything - at the moment, so I think I'm getting a good deal really biggrin
Where is that "useless without pictures" smilie when you need it?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Orb the Impaler said:
sleep envy said:
Orb the Impaler said:
Mrs Orb(s) voted Labour in 1997
sleeping with the enemy...
Well she looks like Sharron Davies, has huge knockers, is paying for the house, my beer, my bikes, my SL500 - everything - at the moment, so I think I'm getting a good deal really biggrin
but don't you ever think, especially in the quiet time, that she actually fked you first?

revrange

1,182 posts

199 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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For the first time ever I have seriously thought about leaving the UK. I can't believe I even thought it, i loved this country, but sadly Brown's Britain just isn't a vision I can buy into, even if there is a vision. Oh yes there is

1. Never admit your wrong
2. Tax and spend till your heart is content.
3. Then spend some more!
4. Lick America's balls to the extent I feel sick in my stomach. I like America but do we have kiss arse like this government makes us
5. Spend some more, don't forget your childrens children will be paying for this party
6. PRint money when your goose is cooked
7. Set up an investigation run by one of your men, whenever anything goes wrong so you can say I'll wait for the report, report to be published on a "bad news" day as to not make you look silly.
8. Spend more tax payers money on something....
9. Ensure all chav families help themselves to free anything and everything they want.
10. Pretent to be tough on crime but not give a monkeys about it.
11. Did I mention spend some more cash? Only tax payers money, go on spend some more!

Rant over, bring on the election, if the country will be capable of holding one by then....

funk odyssey

1,983 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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revrange said:
For the first time ever I have seriously thought about leaving the UK. I can't believe I even thought it, i loved this country, but sadly Brown's Britain just isn't a vision I can buy into, even if there is a vision. Oh yes there is

1. Never admit your wrong
2. Tax and spend till your heart is content.
3. Then spend some more!
4. Lick America's balls to the extent I feel sick in my stomach. I like America but do we have kiss arse like this government makes us
5. Spend some more, don't forget your childrens children will be paying for this party
6. PRint money when your goose is cooked
7. Set up an investigation run by one of your men, whenever anything goes wrong so you can say I'll wait for the report, report to be published on a "bad news" day as to not make you look silly.
8. Spend more tax payers money on something....
9. Ensure all chav families help themselves to free anything and everything they want.
10. Pretent to be tough on crime but not give a monkeys about it.
11. Did I mention spend some more cash? Only tax payers money, go on spend some more!

Rant over, bring on the election, if the country will be capable of holding one by then....
you'll be disappointed when you find most other 1st world coutries are the same

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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The whole world works in a cycle of boom and bust.

In a two party system the ruling party can expect 2 or maybe three terms in power before they are rejected by the people.

This happened to the conservatives last time and now labour is getting their chance of being the village idiots in charge when the ship sails towards disaster.


The next conservative government will have the right to blame the previous government for the state of the country for its entire first term.


chris watton

22,540 posts

275 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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funk odyssey said:
you'll be disappointed when you find most other 1st world coutries are the same
yes
I can confirm that the UK is like a tax haven compared to Italy.....

samwilliams

836 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Isn't your statement in a similar vein to commenting that everything is always in the last place you look?

If the economy was in a better position than when the current government took over, it's highly unlikely that they'd lose an election. Someone may well point out where I'm completely wrong (I'm only a young'un, after all), but I'd expect most governments - whether labour, conservative or liberal - didn't get voted out when the country was in marvellous shape.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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chris watton said:
funk odyssey said:
you'll be disappointed when you find most other 1st world coutries are the same
yes
I can confirm that the UK is like a tax haven compared to Italy.....
you need a good accountant over there

you see 20 euros, he sees 10 euros...

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

263 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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samwilliams said:
Isn't your statement in a similar vein to commenting that everything is always in the last place you look?

If the economy was in a better position than when the current government took over, it's highly unlikely that they'd lose an election. Someone may well point out where I'm completely wrong (I'm only a young'un, after all), but I'd expect most governments - whether labour, conservative or liberal - didn't get voted out when the country was in marvellous shape.
The last Conservative Gummint did, but that was due to the great unwashed (;) ) being "fed up" with sleaze.

Of course, all gummints since have been whiter than white, because Tony said they would be.

chris watton

22,540 posts

275 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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sleep envy said:
chris watton said:
funk odyssey said:
you'll be disappointed when you find most other 1st world coutries are the same
yes
I can confirm that the UK is like a tax haven compared to Italy.....
you need a good accountant over there

you see 20 euros, he sees 10 euros...
I thought I had a good accountant - his fee alone cost more than my corporation tax AND accountants fee for my 2007 UK tax return! I now know why everyone is on the fiddle, even the Notaries!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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you're leaning young padwan wink