My Z4m just doesnt want an inspection 1 !
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Hey all,
I picked my Z4m up as an AUC with 17k miles on the clock a couple of months ago. It's had its running in (1,200 miles) and oil service (around 10k ) miles, plus a brake fluid in there somewhere. Now, as far as I understand it, the next one in the chronology should be insection 1, but when i start the car up, the next service due is shown as an oil service, in about 12 thousand miles. So what's happened to inspection 1? Do the AUC approval process checks count as a replacement for inspection 1? i'm just worried that i'll invalidate my warranty somehow by not having an inspection 1 done, although i suppose it being an AUC and not asking for one might be some protection...
Thanks a lot!
I picked my Z4m up as an AUC with 17k miles on the clock a couple of months ago. It's had its running in (1,200 miles) and oil service (around 10k ) miles, plus a brake fluid in there somewhere. Now, as far as I understand it, the next one in the chronology should be insection 1, but when i start the car up, the next service due is shown as an oil service, in about 12 thousand miles. So what's happened to inspection 1? Do the AUC approval process checks count as a replacement for inspection 1? i'm just worried that i'll invalidate my warranty somehow by not having an inspection 1 done, although i suppose it being an AUC and not asking for one might be some protection...
Thanks a lot!
i think that for auc bmw will do the next service if its due within a few thousand miles. so it looks correct on the basis that's what they've done or they may have just reset the meter. either way resetting the meter gives c15500mls to next service but you'll get about 11-12000mls. get them to stamp the book (and enter it on the bmw computer).
I had this exact problem when I bought mine. What had actually happened was the car had just been service (ins 1) but they hadn't stamped my book. Its something to do with the AUC process the service is done as soon as they get the car or something. I'll see if I can find the old thread.
Found it....http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=181&t=626475&mid=109449&nmt=Z4MC%20inspection%20I
De ja vu anyone!
Found it....http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=181&t=626475&mid=109449&nmt=Z4MC%20inspection%20I
De ja vu anyone!
Edited by daz05 on Monday 2nd March 08:53
daz05 said:
I had this exact problem when I bought mine. What had actually happened was the car had just been service (ins 1) but they hadn't stamped my book. Its something to do with the AUC process the service is done as soon as they get the car or something. I'll see if I can find the old thread.
Found it....http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=181&t=626475&mid=109449&nmt=Z4MC%20inspection%20I
De ja vu anyone!
yes that sounds like the most probable situation IMOFound it....http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=181&t=626475&mid=109449&nmt=Z4MC%20inspection%20I
De ja vu anyone!
Edited by daz05 on Monday 2nd March 08:53
there no way its gonna do approx 19k between the oil service and inspection1
just had mine oil serviced and the clock showed just over 15k till inspection 1 before i pulled of the forecourt
rainking100 said:
Hey all,
I picked my Z4m up as an AUC with 17k miles on the clock a couple of months ago. It's had its running in (1,200 miles) and oil service (around 10k ) miles, plus a brake fluid in there somewhere. Now, as far as I understand it, the next one in the chronology should be insection 1, but when i start the car up, the next service due is shown as an oil service, in about 12 thousand miles. So what's happened to inspection 1? Do the AUC approval process checks count as a replacement for inspection 1? i'm just worried that i'll invalidate my warranty somehow by not having an inspection 1 done, although i suppose it being an AUC and not asking for one might be some protection...
Thanks a lot!
Just 'phone the supplying dealer or BMW UK (with your V5 handy) & they will tell you exactly what services/inspections/brake fluid changes have been carried out on your car. I picked my Z4m up as an AUC with 17k miles on the clock a couple of months ago. It's had its running in (1,200 miles) and oil service (around 10k ) miles, plus a brake fluid in there somewhere. Now, as far as I understand it, the next one in the chronology should be insection 1, but when i start the car up, the next service due is shown as an oil service, in about 12 thousand miles. So what's happened to inspection 1? Do the AUC approval process checks count as a replacement for inspection 1? i'm just worried that i'll invalidate my warranty somehow by not having an inspection 1 done, although i suppose it being an AUC and not asking for one might be some protection...
Thanks a lot!
This happened to me 7 weeks ago. I bought a September 2006 AUC Z4M from Coopers of Chelmsford. When I collected the car I noticed that it was missing the key to the locking wheel nuts, ALL manuals & the minimalist 3 piece tool roll (which contains the very important towing eye!). The dealership pulled out a mechanic & made him go through his tray of 36 different locking wheel nut keys & give me the one that fitted my car. I wasn't terribly impressed when the mechanic showed me his "master key" that would fit all 36 BMW patterns......
The car was supplied to me on 10/01/2009 with 15,713 miles having had the 1200 mile service on 13/10/2006 and an oil service at 10,128 miles on 4/12/2007. After eventually receiving the manuals 3 weeks later I realised that this car should have had a brake fluid change at 24 months (14/09/2008). I telephoned Coopers Chelmsford who checked on the BMW system & confirmed that the brake fluid was changed on 19/11/08. However, they did not annotate the Service Book so I have had to personally write a note into it myself. Where does that leave me on resale?
I am not very impressed with the BMW Approved Used Car Programme (AUC) as they sold me a high end car that was last serviced 13 months (December 2007) before I bought it in January 2009 & could not be bothered to carry out an Inspection 1 Service prior to sale, had no idea that there was no locking wheel nut key or toolkit (very important towing eye) missing.
All I can say is that BMW Customer Services don't give a poo for what their dealers are doing. They ignore legitimate complaints (But thats what Germans do).
I've just spoken to BMW UK who have told me that it is BMW policy that unless a AUC used car has less than 4000 miles (mine was 6,600) until the next service will the supplying dealer service the car prior to sale. In these troubled times that stinks. Hope they go bust!!
Edited by mikez328 on Tuesday 3rd March 13:09
[quote=mikez328
The car was supplied to me on 10/01/2009 with 15,713 miles having had the 1200 mile service on 13/10/2006 and an oil service at 10,128 miles on 4/12/2007. After eventually receiving the manuals 3 weeks later I realised that this car should have had a brake fluid change at 24 months (14/09/2008). I telephoned Coopers Chelmsford who checked on the BMW system & confirmed that the brake fluid was changed on 19/11/08. However, they did not annotate the Service Book so I have had to personally write a note into it myself. Where does that leave me on resale?
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I had a similar issue with my previous 3-series.. I gave the dealer in question who'd performed the missing service a call and they offered to either send out a letter to me stating that the work had been done or if I mailed them the service book they would stamp it for me.
You might be able to arrange something similar if you call the dealer in question.
The car was supplied to me on 10/01/2009 with 15,713 miles having had the 1200 mile service on 13/10/2006 and an oil service at 10,128 miles on 4/12/2007. After eventually receiving the manuals 3 weeks later I realised that this car should have had a brake fluid change at 24 months (14/09/2008). I telephoned Coopers Chelmsford who checked on the BMW system & confirmed that the brake fluid was changed on 19/11/08. However, they did not annotate the Service Book so I have had to personally write a note into it myself. Where does that leave me on resale?
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I had a similar issue with my previous 3-series.. I gave the dealer in question who'd performed the missing service a call and they offered to either send out a letter to me stating that the work had been done or if I mailed them the service book they would stamp it for me.
You might be able to arrange something similar if you call the dealer in question.
Slurms said:
[quote=mikez328
The car was supplied to me on 10/01/2009 with 15,713 miles having had the 1200 mile service on 13/10/2006 and an oil service at 10,128 miles on 4/12/2007. After eventually receiving the manuals 3 weeks later I realised that this car should have had a brake fluid change at 24 months (14/09/2008). I telephoned Coopers Chelmsford who checked on the BMW system & confirmed that the brake fluid was changed on 19/11/08. However, they did not annotate the Service Book so I have had to personally write a note into it myself. Where does that leave me on resale?
I had a similar issue with my previous 3-series.. I gave the dealer in question who'd performed the missing service a call and they offered to either send out a letter to me stating that the work had been done or if I mailed them the service book they would stamp it for me. The car was supplied to me on 10/01/2009 with 15,713 miles having had the 1200 mile service on 13/10/2006 and an oil service at 10,128 miles on 4/12/2007. After eventually receiving the manuals 3 weeks later I realised that this car should have had a brake fluid change at 24 months (14/09/2008). I telephoned Coopers Chelmsford who checked on the BMW system & confirmed that the brake fluid was changed on 19/11/08. However, they did not annotate the Service Book so I have had to personally write a note into it myself. Where does that leave me on resale?
You might be able to arrange something similar if you call the dealer in question.
The Service book will stay with me & be annotated with every oil change/microfilter change et al...
fridaypassion said:
The servicing was the number one thing I checked on every car I looked at. Havi g a grand to fork out a few weeks after you have bought a car is never good.
But that really does not happen. Change the oil & filter (& clean out the VANOS filter) every 6000 miles - ignoring the ridiculous BMW "bord computer" mileages of up to 16,000 miles between oil changes.It all really depends on whether you are only keeping the car until the warranty runs out - & lets face it, most Z4M warranties will run ot in 2009/2010!
The majority of owners will get very upset if they sell this year. A low mileage 2006 £48,000 car is currently available for around £17,000!
C'mon, unless you are an absolute pratt & drive your car to destruction you have one of only 1000 cars in the UK.
Rags said:
He means in addition to the BMW schedule.
No he doesn't! What he means is totally ditch the ridiculously expensive BMW Dealer Network & DIY when the 3 year warranty is about to/has ended!!Own fully synthetic oil/filter change - £65 tops depending on oil used.
Own "Inspection 1" - (Oil/filter + £30 A/C Microfilter) - £95 tops.
Own "Inspection 2" - As per Inspection 1 plus 6 spark plugs & an air filter - £130 max.
And furthermore, if your car is still under BMW Warranty, as long as you use a genuine BMW Oil Filter & a Fully synthetic oil to the specification in your handbook, the warranty is still intact under EU Legislation. - Although BMW would like to charge you upwards of £800 for the Inspection 2 (Oil + oil filter, A/C microfilter, 6 spark plugs & an air filter) plus "Check this, that & the other"......
So says this "Grumpy Old Man"!
Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 4th March 14:05
Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 4th March 14:07
mikez328 said:
Rags said:
He means in addition to the BMW schedule.
No he doesn't! What he means is totally ditch the ridiculously expensive BMW Dealer Network & DIY when the 3 year warranty is about to/has ended!!Own fully synthetic oil/filter change - £65 tops depending on oil used.
Own "Inspection 1" - (Oil/filter + £30 A/C Microfilter) - £95 tops.
Own "Inspection 2" - As per Inspection 1 plus 6 spark plugs & an air filter - £130 max.
And furthermore, if your car is still under BMW Warranty, as long as you use a genuine BMW Oil Filter & a Fully synthetic oil to the specification in your handbook, the warranty is still intact under EU Legislation. - Although BMW would like to charge you upwards of £800 for the Inspection 2 (Oil + oil filter, A/C microfilter, 6 spark plugs & an air filter) plus "Check this, that & the other"......
So says this "Grumpy Old Man"!
Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 4th March 14:05
Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 4th March 14:07
so what about gearbox oil, brake fluid, coolant, diff oil, valve clearances, fault codes reading etc? I certainly would buy a car from you, you have not got a clue if thats your idea of maintenance.
Edited by rampz on Wednesday 4th March 14:26
Mike you are of course perfectly correct (although don't the inspection services also include very important things like adjusting valve clearences?
Unfortunately nobody is going to buy a Z4M that's been self serviced. In fact if you factor in additional deprecion at this stage in the cars life your still going to loose out financially by doing the servicing yourself. Of course nobody will believe it's been done either (way of the world)
On a Y plate m3 it wouldn't be as much of an issue but I can't see people throwing upwards of 18k at a car that's got anything other than full bmw history.
Unfortunately nobody is going to buy a Z4M that's been self serviced. In fact if you factor in additional deprecion at this stage in the cars life your still going to loose out financially by doing the servicing yourself. Of course nobody will believe it's been done either (way of the world)
On a Y plate m3 it wouldn't be as much of an issue but I can't see people throwing upwards of 18k at a car that's got anything other than full bmw history.
rampz said:
mikez328 said:
Rags said:
He means in addition to the BMW schedule.
No he doesn't! What he means is totally ditch the ridiculously expensive BMW Dealer Network & DIY when the 3 year warranty is about to/has ended!!Own fully synthetic oil/filter change - £65 tops depending on oil used.
Own "Inspection 1" - (Oil/filter + £30 A/C Microfilter) - £95 tops.
Own "Inspection 2" - As per Inspection 1 plus 6 spark plugs & an air filter - £130 max.
And furthermore, if your car is still under BMW Warranty, as long as you use a genuine BMW Oil Filter & a Fully synthetic oil to the specification in your handbook, the warranty is still intact under EU Legislation. - Although BMW would like to charge you upwards of £800 for the Inspection 2 (Oil + oil filter, A/C microfilter, 6 spark plugs & an air filter) plus "Check this, that & the other"......
So says this "Grumpy Old Man"!
Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 4th March 14:05
Edited by mikez328 on Wednesday 4th March 14:07
so what about gearbox oil, brake fluid, coolant, diff oil, valve clearances, fault codes reading etc? I certainly would buy a car from you, you have got a clue if thats your idea of maintenance.
Seriously though, yes - there are other aspects that you have raised. The Inspection 1/2 involves "checking" all fluids. I can assure you that after 35 years of driving performance vehicles I have NEVER had to touch gearbox/diff oil. If the brake fluid needed topping up then you have a leak that would manifest itself fairly obviously (no brakes!!). If the valve clearances need adjusting on an "M" engine under 60,000 miles I would be mightily p****d off & deduce a major engine lubrication problem.
When you learn how to put a sentence together in understandable English, try posting again. By the way - full marks for spelling "maintenance" correctly!
ok wacko, fair play on the spelling and typo, but seriously I am pretty sure that some of the fluids are not just supposed to be checked, the service schedule does actually state "replace fluid" for certain fluids, so really you have not got a clue. And even after 60000 miles are up, how would you know if valve clearances are out, if you are not actually checking them?
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