Steering queries
Steering queries
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Gerald-TVR

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4,896 posts

227 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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I have aquired the fire damaged S from grantham



but have spotted something odd - see the bracket below - has anyone got any idea why. Adrian@ has seen it and is curious as well



Not only that the steering is 7/8ths of turn of the steering wheel to full right lock from straight ahead and 1 1/4turns to left full lock when the odd bracket above acts as a steering stop. Its difficult to tell the front wheel position as there is a space saver on one wheel and the propper wheel on the other.

Any ideas please

clarenceboddiger

1,398 posts

245 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Could it have been put there as a bracket for the brake pipe (to hold it in place) that never got finished ???
or is it a "yes, darling just head for the cliff and take a sharp right just before you get to the edge" smile

Edited by clarenceboddiger on Monday 26th January 19:12

tvrgit

8,489 posts

282 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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My first thought is that it's been designed as a steering stop to prevent the tyre rubbing on the wheel arch. Can't see any other use for it...

bridgdav

4,805 posts

278 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Are they standard shocks fitted..? Longer..?

Gerald-TVR

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4,896 posts

227 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Hmmmmm only fitted to drivers side and the car is on AVOs and its miles away from brake lines.

Edited by Gerald-TVR on Monday 26th January 19:53

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

314 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Is there a similar one on the other side?

Gerald-TVR

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227 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Nope just drivers side

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

314 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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As a steering lock stop it's in completely the wrong place. The only other thing I can think of is a mount intended for a replacement anti-roll bar, but it's so close to the upright that it's obvious going to cause problems there too. The curious thing is that it's obviously been painted with the wishbone so whoever made it must have been happy with it, but didn't bother doing the same to the other side. Does the other wishbone look similar in terms of paint/condition?

Any chance of tracing the previous owner just to satisfy curiosity?

Edited by GreenV8S on Monday 26th January 21:27

tvrgit

8,489 posts

282 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Interesting thing there is that the track rod looks clean and relatively new, and that is a new lock nut on the track rod end. Wonder if the rack's been changed / refurbished but not centralised properly when refitted?

Peter - am I missing something, how would that not act as a steering stop? when the hub carrier hits that bracket, it can't turn any further?

spludge

327 posts

249 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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A steering stop would be my guess as well and that it had one on the other side. Perhaps to fix a problem with after-market alloys with the wrong offset or maybe too wide. Looks like they forgot to take that one off when the original wheels went back on.

K

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

234 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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I don't know what it is but is there actually any thread screwed into that balljoint - cos there's an awful lot of it showing.

Gerald-TVR

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227 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Peter
Difficult to say about condition as the other side has a small amount of fire/smoke damage BUT there is no sign that a similar bracket has ever been fitted. All the re furbishment of the front suspension was done before the previous owner bought the car nso no intel there. It works as a steering lock stop when on left lock

pic of other side



Andrew
If you look at above pic and compare the track rod end the N/S seems a lot older so I guess N/S replaced for some reason.

Still Hmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!

spivvy

1,535 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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daft question i know but any chance the bracket has just turned slightly from original position
as if it was upright it would clear the track rod,
difficult to make out from the picture though

Edited by spivvy on Tuesday 27th January 10:48

Gerald-TVR

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227 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Hi Alan

Definatly no bracket

tvrgit

8,489 posts

282 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Gerald-TVR said:
Andrew
If you look at above pic and compare the track rod end the N/S seems a lot older so I guess N/S replaced for some reason.

Still Hmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!
That one looks more like I would expect it to look!

Yep I'd agree - that n/s track rod seems to have been renewed, with new lock nut. And pretty recently too, I'd suggest. Wonder why... and if that's related to any need for a steering stop...

Hmmmmm right enough!

clarenceboddiger

1,398 posts

245 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Far fetched I know but could it be that the rack is damaged and the owner fearing high csts may have fitted this to stop the rack travelling to its damaged section???

bridgdav

4,805 posts

278 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Has the previous owner changed that side of the rack..?

Could it be shorter/longer, so the need for a stop..?

Gerald-TVR

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4,896 posts

227 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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I'll pull it off and investigated in the next few weeks and report

tvrgit

8,489 posts

282 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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clarenceboddiger said:
Far fetched I know but could it be that the rack is damaged and the owner fearing high csts may have fitted this to stop the rack travelling to its damaged section???
You are Inspector Morse AICMFP

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

234 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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A good point - any rack and pinion rack wears in the middle first (straight ahead) so could someone have done a bodge so that staight ahead is no longer using the centre of the rack?
They made it deliberately off centre then fitted a stop at the 'long' end.

Armchair guessing of course.