HOW TO STOP THEM BUILDING FLATS BEHIND MY HOUSE?
HOW TO STOP THEM BUILDING FLATS BEHIND MY HOUSE?
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thegman

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1,928 posts

233 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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Help!

Just got a letter from the council saying that somebody house applied for planning permission for a new building behind my house. They want to demolish a 2/3 story social club from 1900's, and replace it with a 3/4/5 story block of flats. These will look right into my bedroom. Its also a conservation area. I know I need to send a rejection letter to the council but I wondered if any legal/planning bods could give me advice on:

- What to focus my arguments on - what are the best legal grounds? Assume light, aspect, privacy, keeping with look and feel of area?
- Should I engage a solicitor?
- Whats the best way to get this rejected? Should I lobby local councillors?

Thanks!!!!

jas xjr

11,309 posts

268 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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i cannot believe anyone is still building flats in todays climate...its flipping cold!

randomman

2,215 posts

218 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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Rally all the NIMBYs (no offence) you can't be the only one that's opposed to it. More pi$$ed off people can provide more funds and knowledge to fight it.

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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jas xjr said:
i cannot believe anyone is still building flats in todays climate...its flipping cold!
Have a rofl from me

MikeyT

18,391 posts

300 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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If it is a conservastion area then I would think they have two chances. Slim and none tbh. but then surely they would have known that before having the plans drawn up?

Have a word with your local councillor. Who, if you're lucky, might live on the same road (as mine used to). Very handy.

Carl_Spackler

3,116 posts

217 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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Sit the developer in front of BBC News 24 for about a hour.

Graham E

13,018 posts

215 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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not THEM again?

you probably want to make a hat out of tnfoil so they can't read your dreams you when you sleep. Thats why they want to look into your bedroom..

rich1231

17,340 posts

289 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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Sorry about that.

I'm going to advertise them as "Voyeurs Heights".

Hope you dont mind.

PD9

2,040 posts

214 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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Sick a sign in the ground stating:

If the owner of this property, even thinks about building anything on this plot. He will be stabbed.

Kind Regards

The Neighbours

Edited by PD9 on Friday 28th November 14:32

alfaman

6,416 posts

263 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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I have some recent experience of fighting an application for a development.

I suggest you contact all your neighbours and get at least a total of 10 letters of objection.

If > 10 letters are sent -then the council MUST by law have a full meeting / review of the application even if the Planning Officer recommends for approval , if less than 10 - the application does not necessarily need a review - and could be passed on recommendation from the planning officer.

reasonable grounds for objection include overlooking into your rear garden / loss of privacy , parking problems , development out of keeping with the area , development too large scale for the plot.

loss of value to your property is not deemed relevant. the council can provide you with a list of criteria - and if you talk to the planning officers they are often helpful.

thegman

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1,928 posts

233 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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rich1231 said:
Sorry about that.

I'm going to advertise them as "Voyeurs Heights".

Hope you dont mind.
Only if I get a share. Call it "entertainment costs" or something

thegman

Original Poster:

1,928 posts

233 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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alfaman said:
Useful stuff
Thanks

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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Garlick said:
jas xjr said:
i cannot believe anyone is still building flats in todays climate...its flipping cold!
Have a rofl from me
They'll have to build a few dozen, so they have enough to offer 'Buy one, get one free' deals. biggrin

Bob Loblaw

466 posts

234 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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Graham E said:
not THEM again?

you probably want to make a hat out of tnfoil so they can't read your dreams you when you sleep. Thats why they want to look into your bedroom..
No you fool, that'll just amplify the signal! What he needs is a lead hat

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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HTH

The jiffle king

7,503 posts

287 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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alfaman said:
I have some recent experience of fighting an application for a development.

I suggest you contact all your neighbours and get at least a total of 10 letters of objection.

If > 10 letters are sent -then the council MUST by law have a full meeting / review of the application even if the Planning Officer recommends for approval , if less than 10 - the application does not necessarily need a review - and could be passed on recommendation from the planning officer.

reasonable grounds for objection include overlooking into your rear garden / loss of privacy , parking problems , development out of keeping with the area , development too large scale for the plot.

loss of value to your property is not deemed relevant. the council can provide you with a list of criteria - and if you talk to the planning officers they are often helpful.
Spot on, but let me also add:
- Inadequate parking provision
- Site access - who owns it
- S106 payments - They will need to pay to local services
- Does the local area have enough green space? If this is a loss of any green space, then it is a valud argument (but not on it's own)

If it does get approved, then watch the build very carefully as any deviation will have to be subject to a new permission. (6 months ago a local developer who is building a hotel with parking spaces forgot to put them in and then applied for planning. The build was only at foundation stage, but has been stopped for months... I also took photo's of the site and alerted the council to H&S practices

The more letters the council get, the better. Around me there are 4 developments and I support 2, but have objected to 2. The first one I objected to was the hotel which was passed and is now stopped, the second one a conversion into flats has failed 2x so far (I do support the site being used, but it will be over-developed)

The being overlooked is a big one, so play on everything you can.

T-J-K


alfaman

6,416 posts

263 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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The jiffle king said:
alfaman said:
I have some recent experience of fighting an application for a development.

I suggest you contact all your neighbours and get at least a total of 10 letters of objection.

If > 10 letters are sent -then the council MUST by law have a full meeting / review of the application even if the Planning Officer recommends for approval , if less than 10 - the application does not necessarily need a review - and could be passed on recommendation from the planning officer.

reasonable grounds for objection include overlooking into your rear garden / loss of privacy , parking problems , development out of keeping with the area , development too large scale for the plot.

loss of value to your property is not deemed relevant. the council can provide you with a list of criteria - and if you talk to the planning officers they are often helpful.
Spot on, but let me also add:
- Inadequate parking provision
- Site access - who owns it
- S106 payments - They will need to pay to local services
- Does the local area have enough green space? If this is a loss of any green space, then it is a valud argument (but not on it's own)

If it does get approved, then watch the build very carefully as any deviation will have to be subject to a new permission. (6 months ago a local developer who is building a hotel with parking spaces forgot to put them in and then applied for planning. The build was only at foundation stage, but has been stopped for months... I also took photo's of the site and alerted the council to H&S practices

The more letters the council get, the better. Around me there are 4 developments and I support 2, but have objected to 2. The first one I objected to was the hotel which was passed and is now stopped, the second one a conversion into flats has failed 2x so far (I do support the site being used, but it will be over-developed)

The being overlooked is a big one, so play on everything you can.

T-J-K
I totally agree with the need to watch what actually gets built.

the development I was fighting was a neighbours 3 story house:

neighbour had put in application for 2 story house: approved

neighbour then put in amendment for 3rd story : rejected

neighbour then built 3rd story anyway - but within roofline of existing dwelling - with windows overlooking neighbours.

neighbour also built other add-ons not on the approved plans - the builders were working to different plans to those signed off by the council.

All of us in the area got involved fighting this as the owner was basically building what he wanted regardless of what had been approved - even after the council advised him to stop work !!

he then put in for retrospective planning approval - THIS WAS GRANTED!!

The lesson here is that in South Bucks you can basically build what the fk you like ( and a few of us thought there may have been some envelopes exchanged with council officals / planners )- the house developmetn doubled the size of the house and completely paved over the large front garden to give enough parking for about 8 cars and multiple generations / households furious












thegman

Original Poster:

1,928 posts

233 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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Thanks. Does anybody know of any relevant planning regulations that I might use to bolster my right to light, privacy etc?

randomman

2,215 posts

218 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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V8mate said:


HTH
You're going to hit them with a drainpipe?

Well cant say its not original...

The jiffle king

7,503 posts

287 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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I would suggest that you need to look on your local council's planning website. It is different by local authority, so I cannot really help. You can also phone the planning officer if you want, they can only tell you to get lost.

I have spoken at the council meeting once against a development (I lost) but it was threraputic to give my POV.

There are many regulations, you might also want to look at any Govt Regs as things do change.

Ask the streetcare people/Transport at the council what they think. If any trees might be taken down or potentially damaged, ask the tree person (arbo..) to review the site before they get taken down

T-J-K