Huge Price Differences On RS4 2.7's?

[After_Shock]

Been looking at RS4's for a bit on autotrader, cant get my head round why some cars are 12k ish (higher miles) all the way upto £25k for almost the same year car with less miles on, seems a ridiculously wide price bracket for cars that are only a year younger with less miles on?

[matt uk]

Because it is rare and desirable, there'll always be someone willing to pay top dollar for 'the best'
Hence, the best examples will be priced well outside of the normal ranges

Edited by matt uk on Monday 24th November 12:55

[Welshbeef]

With such a price difference though you could buy a new engine suspension & brakes ... maybe a lot more too so given that my assumption on part prices there is ball park why would you pay more for something newer - or is it purely to have one with a lower odo reading?

[amir_j]

After_Shock said:

Been looking at RS4's for a bit on autotrader, cant get my head round why some cars are 12k ish (higher miles) all the way upto £25k for almost the same year car with less miles on, seems a ridiculously wide price bracket for cars that are only a year younger with less miles on?

Because people buying are often Audi enthusiasts (bmws are arguably a better drive so choosing for the understated looks and so on)- the car can costs thousands to maintain/bring up to scratch (twin turbos and handful of respected specialists around the country) and was made in limited numbers so a well looked after example, whilst will struggle to get £25k, will be at the higher end.

LOADS in Zurich where I currently am- still look pretty modern too from the outside.

[Welshbeef]

Just called Audi for servicing prices:-

Annual service is £494.92 incl VAT every 10k
Cambelt £569.98 incl VAT every 40k or 4 years
Front Pads £275.09
Front Pads & Discs £824.93
Rear pads £164.40
Rear Pads & Discs £638.23

So if you buy one needing the above thats going to cost you over £2.5k! (good haggling point).

Tyres? Whats the size Im guessing they are going to be around the £1k mark.

Clearly this is an expensive car to run so eyes wide open if your seriously going to buy.

Ignoring the great drive aspect - if buying one at £12k + £2.5k work -£15k Really your hardly going to lose anything in depreciation and have 380bhp on tap.

Superchips will up this by 34bhp so more poke than an E39M5 & 4wd & limited numbers. Win win.

[levron73]

I owned one - Brilliant car. When I bought and sold the prices were very mileage dependant. I looked for a long time and bought a low mileage "show room" condition car. I paid slightly more but kept in it good shape and got a great sale price on it so it was all relative.

From a servicign perspctive - they ain't cheap - I think the cambelt and a full service from Audi were £1200 (it was under warranty at the time). A good indy would be the best bet - especially as Audi won't warranty them directly nowdays.

They are fast enough with the 380BHP!

[amir_j]

Welshbeef said:

Ignoring the great drive aspect - if buying one at £12k + £2.5k work -£15k Really your hardly going to lose anything in depreciation and have 380bhp on tap.

Only for the next couple of years, The most important factor being the B7 RS4 saloons/avants is a better car (on rs246, owners of a b5 will admit this), so as that continues to drop so will this.

Add to this the last ones are getting past the mental 100k mileage barrier, factor in the high running costs and as with all turbos you never know when they are going to go so I reckon will bottom out in the 7-10k range depending on quality.

Edited by amir_j on Monday 24th November 12:30

[After_Shock]

Thanks for the replies, brake disc and pads prices are a bit eye watering lol

Last time I looked at them was probably beginning of the year and wasnt a single one under £20k was a bit shocked to see them nearer £10k.

It is a choice between the RS4 and as someone mentioned above an E39 M5 which are also becoming very cheap now. Just a balancing act as to which will lose the least amount of money, be more fun and be the better to own, have a company car so would probably only cover 2k miles per year.

[amir_j]

After_Shock said:

Thanks for the replies, brake disc and pads prices are a bit eye watering lol

Last time I looked at them was probably beginning of the year and wasnt a single one under £20k was a bit shocked to see them nearer £10k.

It is a choice between the RS4 and as someone mentioned above an E39 M5 which are also becoming very cheap now. Just a balancing act as to which will lose the least amount of money, be more fun and be the better to own, have a company car so would probably only cover 2k miles per year.

2k? Id get something way less sensible in that case

[option click]

Welshbeef said:

Superchips will up this by 34bhp so more

STOP.

http://www.mrctuning.com/

Carry on....

[After_Shock]

amir_j said:

After_Shock said:

Thanks for the replies, brake disc and pads prices are a bit eye watering lol

Last time I looked at them was probably beginning of the year and wasnt a single one under £20k was a bit shocked to see them nearer £10k.

It is a choice between the RS4 and as someone mentioned above an E39 M5 which are also becoming very cheap now. Just a balancing act as to which will lose the least amount of money, be more fun and be the better to own, have a company car so would probably only cover 2k miles per year.

2k? Id get something way less sensible in that case

Such as??

[amir_j]

After_Shock said:

amir_j said:

After_Shock said:

Thanks for the replies, brake disc and pads prices are a bit eye watering lol

Last time I looked at them was probably beginning of the year and wasnt a single one under £20k was a bit shocked to see them nearer £10k.

It is a choice between the RS4 and as someone mentioned above an E39 M5 which are also becoming very cheap now. Just a balancing act as to which will lose the least amount of money, be more fun and be the better to own, have a company car so would probably only cover 2k miles per year.

2k? Id get something way less sensible in that case

Such as??

Rs6, dropped to that price range. Wouldnt want one for high mileage but for 2k would be so much fun.

Anything else depends on your spec, must be a estate? if not then a 2 seater of some sort etc.

[After_Shock]

Not overly bothered by estate, M5 is saloon, been looking at Monaro's which are coupe's just fancy something quick and reasonably depreciation proof.

RS6's seem to have quite scary running costs but do appear on my list of possibility's. Will probably narrow it down to 2 cars give them both a try and find the right car.

[Welshbeef]

Try an RS2.
The thing is with many of these rare super cars is that some may have low depreciation these days BUT the servicing costs & the potential failure of certain parts could really be painful.

[Dr G]

Having driven enough different cars to offer what I'd consider an educated opinion - I don't like them. I do like that 400 were amde and the numbers dwindle every day and I do like that a genuinely good example is a very special thing indeed.

As standard, the gear change is awful, the interior dated, the suspension doesn't feel up to the power, the brakes don't feel up to the power, the steering never really inspires and the novelty of the power delivery soon wears off.

Why do you buy a B5? Because you want one. £16-19k should buy you a very nice car today, to be far north of 20 it would need to be a show car. We recently did for 27k a 20,000 mile, 1 owner example with a really very thorough service history. A lot of the asking prices today are just plain silly.

[After_Shock]

Dr G said:

Having driven enough different cars to offer what I'd consider an educated opinion - I don't like them. I do like that 400 were amde and the numbers dwindle every day and I do like that a genuinely good example is a very special thing indeed.

As standard, the gear change is awful, the interior dated, the suspension doesn't feel up to the power, the brakes don't feel up to the power, the steering never really inspires and the novelty of the power delivery soon wears off.

Why do you buy a B5? Because you want one. £16-19k should buy you a very nice car today, to be far north of 20 it would need to be a show car. We recently did for 27k a 20,000 mile, 1 owner example with a really very thorough service history. A lot of the asking prices today are just plain silly.

Interesting perspective on them, have not driven one yet so appreciate the input. I think depreciation is going to hit the higher priced cars in the coming months especially with the V8 RS4's creeping into the top end of B5's price range.