Explore Mars now
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Quite fun for a browse:
www.exploremarsnow.org
(Doesn't seem to support movement in Firefox but OK in Explorer)
www.exploremarsnow.org
(Doesn't seem to support movement in Firefox but OK in Explorer)
I enjoyed browsing that.
For some years I have thought that human pioneers will become the first Martians at some stage in the future.
New Colonials if you wish.
So all those science fiction works depicting 'Mars Attacks' or 'War of the Worlds' of the last century were actually predicting a future Boston Tea Party where the new world rails against paying tax to the old world and seeks independence..cue war (again).
For some years I have thought that human pioneers will become the first Martians at some stage in the future.
New Colonials if you wish.
So all those science fiction works depicting 'Mars Attacks' or 'War of the Worlds' of the last century were actually predicting a future Boston Tea Party where the new world rails against paying tax to the old world and seeks independence..cue war (again).
kenny Chim 4 said:
I enjoyed browsing that.
For some years I have thought that human pioneers will become the first Martians at some stage in the future.
New Colonials if you wish.
So all those science fiction works depicting 'Mars Attacks' or 'War of the Worlds' of the last century were actually predicting a future Boston Tea Party where the new world rails against paying tax to the old world and seeks independence..cue war (again).
Better to start with somewhere abit closer. Perhaps the moon.For some years I have thought that human pioneers will become the first Martians at some stage in the future.
New Colonials if you wish.
So all those science fiction works depicting 'Mars Attacks' or 'War of the Worlds' of the last century were actually predicting a future Boston Tea Party where the new world rails against paying tax to the old world and seeks independence..cue war (again).
GilbertGrape said:
Better to start with somewhere abit closer. Perhaps the moon.
Yeah, that's fundamental in that the moon will be utilised as a launching pad (does away with all that effort of pushing a crate against all that gravity/atmosphere that we have here on terra firma). Not the ideal model to colonise though
kenny Chim 4 said:
GilbertGrape said:
Better to start with somewhere abit closer. Perhaps the moon.
Yeah, that's fundamental in that the moon will be utilised as a launching pad (does away with all that effort of pushing a crate against all that gravity/atmosphere that we have here on terra firma). Not the ideal model to colonise thoughSurely it makes more sense that, having lifted the 100/200 tons or so required for a Mars spoaceship off the earth, the best thing is to leave it in earth orbit until it is required to fire its motors to start its journey outwards to Mars. Landing the whole thing on the Moon first and then having to head off from the Moon's surface constitutes a whole lot of extra effort, fuel, cost etc.
Obviously, it would be different if the actual raw materials for the Mars spacecraft were made from raw materials mined and built on the moon, but that won't be possible for a long, long time.
Eric Mc said:
kenny Chim 4 said:
GilbertGrape said:
Better to start with somewhere abit closer. Perhaps the moon.
Yeah, that's fundamental in that the moon will be utilised as a launching pad (does away with all that effort of pushing a crate against all that gravity/atmosphere that we have here on terra firma). Not the ideal model to colonise thoughMost spacecraft launched from earth aren't aerodynamic either. However, they are protected within an aerodynamic nose cone and shroud during launch. Obviousl;y, launching off the airless moon means they could dispense with these add-ons - and therefore save some weight and complexity.
Amazing how long it takes some posts to re-surface!
You'll find the two habitat modules from the Mars Society on Google Earth at:
Flashline: 75°25'52.70"N 89°49'24.33"W
MDRS Utah: 38°24'23.26"N 110°47'30.89"W
If you like this kind of thing do read 'Mars on Earth' by Robert Zubrin, a thorough study of the practicalities of a mission to Mars, the costs, and why it has to be manned not robotic, and how NASA screwed up.
You'll find the two habitat modules from the Mars Society on Google Earth at:
Flashline: 75°25'52.70"N 89°49'24.33"W
MDRS Utah: 38°24'23.26"N 110°47'30.89"W
If you like this kind of thing do read 'Mars on Earth' by Robert Zubrin, a thorough study of the practicalities of a mission to Mars, the costs, and why it has to be manned not robotic, and how NASA screwed up.
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