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anonymous-user

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84 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Is there any way someone would be able to influence which high court judge was presiding over a particular case?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

247 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Are you Max Mosley?

IforB

9,840 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Polaroids?

Eric Mc

125,677 posts

295 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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I would expect any such attempts could be construed as trying to "pervert the course of justice" - which is a crminal offence.

Boozy

2,427 posts

249 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Kill all of them bar the one you want to hear your case

job done

on a serious legal note, I would say no

garycat

5,392 posts

240 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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el stovey said:
Is there any way someone would be able to influence which high court judge was presiding over a particular case?
By having a better prepared case, stronger evidence, more professional presentation by the barrister?

Puff Puff

23,205 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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garycat said:
el stovey said:
Is there any way someone would be able to influence which high court judge was presiding over a particular case?
By having a better prepared case, stronger evidence, more professional presentation by the barrister?
How would that influence which judge was presiding?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

247 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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If you had a Judge you didn't want to sit on a case, you would have to provide evidence that the Judge in question had links to the case or principles around the case, and that it was likely it would affect the outcome.


anonymous-user

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84 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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10 Pence Short said:
If you had a Judge you didn't want to sit on a case, you would have to provide evidence that the Judge in question had links to the case or principles around the case, and that it was likely it would affect the outcome.
My question is more where someone actually wants a particular Judge.

Would it be possible for someone to somehow influence the selection of a high court judge to preside over their case?

Is the situation so unlikely that although actually possible couldn't really happen?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

247 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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There are obvious reasons why you cannot choose a judge.

Eric Mc

125,677 posts

295 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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See my reply earlier. It is illegal.

A judge is supposed to be independent and even handed. If you were trying to influence who was going to judge your case, you would be obviously angling for someone who you thought might look favourably on your case - which would destroy the independence and even handedness criteria.

singlecoil

35,831 posts

276 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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garycat said:
el stovey said:
Is there any way someone would be able to influence which high court judge was presiding over a particular case?
By having a better prepared case, stronger evidence, more professional presentation by the barrister?
And getting a better barrister, they vary a lot, just because they are qualified doesn't mean they are any good

anonymous-user

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84 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
See my reply earlier. It is illegal.

A judge is supposed to be independent and even handed. If you were trying to influence who was going to judge your case, you would be obviously angling for someone who you thought might look favourably on your case - which would destroy the independence and even handedness criteria.
Yes I'm sure it's at least bad form.

I'm just wondering if it's possible to do so or is it so unlikely to actually be impossible. Does anyone know if it has ever happened in the high court before?

rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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10 Pence Short said:
There are obvious reasons why you cannot choose a judge.
yes The only thing you might be able to influence is why one particular judge should not sit. That would have to be as a result of conflict of interests, etc.

Eric Mc

125,677 posts

295 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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el stovey said:
Eric Mc said:
See my reply earlier. It is illegal.

A judge is supposed to be independent and even handed. If you were trying to influence who was going to judge your case, you would be obviously angling for someone who you thought might look favourably on your case - which would destroy the independence and even handedness criteria.
Yes I'm sure it's at least bad form.

I'm just wondering if it's possible to do so or is it so unlikely to actually be impossible. Does anyone know if it has ever happened in the high court before?
I think you've been reading too many John Grisham novels smile

singlecoil

35,831 posts

276 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
el stovey said:
Eric Mc said:
See my reply earlier. It is illegal.

A judge is supposed to be independent and even handed. If you were trying to influence who was going to judge your case, you would be obviously angling for someone who you thought might look favourably on your case - which would destroy the independence and even handedness criteria.
Yes I'm sure it's at least bad form.

I'm just wondering if it's possible to do so or is it so unlikely to actually be impossible. Does anyone know if it has ever happened in the high court before?
I think you've been reading too many John Grisham novels smile
Any John Grisham novels is too many. Having said that, I've read several, but notice they are getting worse.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

247 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Eric Mc said:
el stovey said:
Eric Mc said:
See my reply earlier. It is illegal.

A judge is supposed to be independent and even handed. If you were trying to influence who was going to judge your case, you would be obviously angling for someone who you thought might look favourably on your case - which would destroy the independence and even handedness criteria.
Yes I'm sure it's at least bad form.

I'm just wondering if it's possible to do so or is it so unlikely to actually be impossible. Does anyone know if it has ever happened in the high court before?
I think you've been reading too many John Grisham novels smile
"Yaw-wanor, I arbject, this is nat legal in missus hippi!"

Eric Mc

125,677 posts

295 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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singlecoil said:
Eric Mc said:
el stovey said:
Eric Mc said:
See my reply earlier. It is illegal.

A judge is supposed to be independent and even handed. If you were trying to influence who was going to judge your case, you would be obviously angling for someone who you thought might look favourably on your case - which would destroy the independence and even handedness criteria.
Yes I'm sure it's at least bad form.

I'm just wondering if it's possible to do so or is it so unlikely to actually be impossible. Does anyone know if it has ever happened in the high court before?
I think you've been reading too many John Grisham novels smile
Any John Grisham novels is too many. Having said that, I've read several, but notice they are getting worse.
He's running out of steam. Have you tried some of his non-legal books (sorry for dragging stovey's thread OT)?

TommyTT

460 posts

237 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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You could get a friendly clerk to get a look at the court diary to see when the preferred judge is sitting, then try to have your case listed for those days.

anonymous-user

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84 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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TommyTT said:
You could get a friendly clerk to get a look at the court diary to see when the preferred judge is sitting, then try to have your case listed for those days.
So the judge is assigned to a particular day before the case is assigned?