Black tie question

[dan101smith]

Is it a little bit....OTT....to wear a black shirt with black tie (as in DJ/dickie bow)?

[TheEnd]

I have a feeling you'd stand out in a bad way if you did, "black tie" means white shirt too.

[Eddie the Ead]

Not if you're a Bouncer,

Edited by Eddie the Ead on Tuesday 18th November 21:09

[Chrispy Porker]

or a snooker player.

[rich1231]

pompous cock dribble

Wear what you like.

[TheEnd]

Oh, hang on, if you were invited to a black tie event, then yes, bad idea, but if in general, you could get away with it, if maybe looking a little clichéd

[dan101smith]

OK, fair point.

That would suggest that waistcoats are out, too...

[Baby Huey]

Possibly a bit footballery.

[anonymous-user]

Black shirt AND bow-tie?

You'll be really glad you asked here before rocking up in public in that.

What are you thinking?

[smutbag]

rich1231 said:

pompous cock dribble

Wear what you like.

Pffff!

That's exactly what you wore to btap.

Except neither of us could be arsed fighting with the bow tie and it got left undone. And then left somewhere.

[dan101smith]

The only pic I can find to illustrate my point is from Casino Royale:



So that's a no-go then? Just as an alternative to the usual, you see.

(My God he's got a smug gurn)

[anonymous-user]

smutbag said:

rich1231 said:

pompous cock dribble

Wear what you like.

Pffff!

That's exactly what you wore to btap.

Except neither of us could be arsed fighting with the bow tie and it got left undone. And then left somewhere.

Rich and smutters

[smutbag]

el stovey said:

smutbag said:

rich1231 said:

pompous cock dribble

Wear what you like.

Pffff!

That's exactly what you wore to btap.

Except neither of us could be arsed fighting with the bow tie and it got left undone. And then left somewhere.

Rich and smutters

Strangely Accurate

[LeftBack]

dan101smith said:

The only pic I can find to illustrate my point is from Casino Royale:



So that's a no-go then? Just as an alternative to the usual, you see.

(My God he's got a smug gurn)

If you think you can pull off James Bond villain, wear it by all means. If not, better just to toe the line.

[Not Ideal]

Baby Huey said:

Possibly a bit footballery.

+ 1. Uber naff.

[siscar]

The problem with formal dress is that there are 'rules'. You don't have to follow them, not doing so may make you think you are being individual but to others it just makes you look like a prat. It's your choice.

[bridgdav]

So whats the difference between Black Tie and Evening Dress..?

Black Tie Defined


1. dinner jacket color:

• black is the norm

• midnight blue is equally correct

model can be:

• single-breasted

• double-breasted

lapels can be:

• peaked lapel

• shawl collar

• notched collar is most popular but considered

inappropriate by traditionalists

and can have:

• satin facing

• grosgrain facing

sleeve buttons: covered in same fabric as lapel facings

vents: no vents is most formal

2. black-tie trousers color and material to match jacket

single braid along seams to match lapel facings

cut for suspenders


3. black-tie waist covering black waist covering can be either:

• cummerbund made from silk to match jacket facings

• waistcoat made from silk or same material as jacket

worn with single-breasted jacket models but not with double-breasted

some style experts claim that waist coverings are not worn much these days

4. black-tie shirt


white fabric

collar can be:

• wing collar, described by many authorities as the most formal but some insist it is the exclusive domain of white tie

• turndown collar

fronts can be either pleated or piqué

shirt has eyelets for studs and French cuffs for links; some authorities allow for fly-fronts


5. black-tie neckwear
black silk bow tie to match lapel facings

6. black-tie footwear


black shoes:

• patent leather pumps are most traditional

• patent or highly polished oxfords are acceptable

7. black-tie accessories black silk or fine fabric hose, over-the-calf length

suspenders of black or white silk

harmonizing black, gold or mother-of-pearl studs and cufflinks

white silk or linen handkerchief

outerwear chesterfield coat is most conventional but any other dark dressy coat is acceptable; rain (trench) coats are not appropriate

evening dress scarf of white silk with tassels




Warm-Weather Black Tie


Acceptable year round in tropical climates and in summer in North America.



1. dinner jacket white or preferably ivory

all other details as per classic jacket

2. trousers black

all other details as per standard black-tie trousers


3. waist covering
black cummerbund

4. shirt as per standard black-tie shirt

5. neckwear as per standard black-tie neckwear

6. footwear
as per standard black-tie footwear

7. accessories colored silk or linen handkerchief

all other details as per standard black-tie accessories

[jonmac73]

nice definition there.

Ticked all the boxes last time i wore one (school fundraising ball) apart from the white converse trainers !!!!

[Zod]

White shirt, pique or fine pleat, turn-down collar, double cuff or stiff cuff.