Griffith Nr 1 for sale

[aerospoke]

http://www.mershons.com/view_photo.asp?ID=6361&amp...

Is this the real deal? Then it would be an absolute must for any whealthy TVR-Collector.

Anyway, it is a beautiful car.

Cheers Jens

[Slow M]

Wow! Now I understand the lineage from which my car descended...

...because my car, too, has racoon turds in the drivers side foot well.

VERY cool! Wonder what rear wheels it had to necessitate those wheel arches.

B.

[heightswitch]

it would take a lot of work to get it back into somewhere near original condition.

What mods has it had to enable a switch to 5 stud hubs??

Neil.

[Slow M]

Apparently the five lug hubs are original to this prototype. The current owner states that Mike Mooney, Author of "The Griffith Years" agrees. It was originally built using Jaguar parts.
By the way, This other one also seems to have 5-lug wheels and I think the American Racing wheels on these two cars look great! They are also period correct.

This one has the five lug hubs too.

Bernard

[heightswitch]

Slow M said:

Apparently the five lug hubs are original to this prototype. The current owner states that Mike Mooney, Author of "The Griffith Years" agrees. It was originally built using Jaguar parts.
By the way, This other one also seems to have 5-lug wheels and I think the American Racing wheels on these two cars look great! They are also period correct.

This one has the five lug hubs too.

Bernard

They didn't leave blackpool with 5 stud hubs!

I think that this is more to do with modifications over time. I would be interested to see the rear end though to see just what has went on behind the wheels. the front end too for that matter.

obviously if you can argue that the prototype had 5 stud wheels that would open up a whole kettle of fish with Fia bods?? interesting.

I bet they are corvette hubs though.

N.

[Slow M]

heightswitch said:

...I bet they are corvette hubs though.

Why?
B.

[heightswitch]

Slow M said:

heightswitch said:

...I bet they are corvette hubs though.

Why?
B.

just a feeling. I think one or 2 chaps in the states have re-cast the rear upright to accept a corvette rear hub.

I think the mods on the cars in the pics are relatively recent mods. I don't think I have seen a jag front hub on a Griffith. I would like to see a pic to prove me wrong though. It would be nice to legally race in Fia with 5 stud hubs. certainly make things a lot cheaper to buy in terms of cost / strength, and of course a lot easier to use sexy torque thrust wheels.

N.

[Slow M]

heightswitch said:

Slow M said:

heightswitch said:

...I bet they are corvette hubs though.

Why?
B.

just a feeling. I think one or 2 chaps in the states have re-cast the rear upright to accept a corvette rear hub.

I think the mods on the cars in the pics are relatively recent mods. I don't think I have seen a jag front hub on a Griffith. I would like to see a pic to prove me wrong though. It would be nice to legally race in Fia with 5 stud hubs. certainly make things a lot cheaper to buy in terms of cost / strength, and of course a lot easier to use sexy torque thrust wheels.

N.

Ah! I get what you're saying. I've seen those. None the less, I think the hybrid Corvette hub carrier is a relatively recent development (isn't it?) and has probably not been adapted to too many cars, especially the crusty older ones. If we determine what the bolt pattern is on those Corvette hubs and compare to Jag, it whould be easy to tell. Still, Mike Mooney has apparently told the owner they were originally fitted at Griffith's so maybe he has documentation?
B

edit: Jaguar and Chev Corvette both use 5 on 4 3/4"

Edited by Slow M on Saturday 8th November 02:08

[Fiscracer]

I agree with Neil but it's academic whether it had 5 studs or not from original as it depends what the FIA homolation papers ahow. Unless you can show that a car of the type you have ran in period with those modifications you are stuffed.

I know of several ex works MG cars that have modifications they are not allowed to run in FIA as they were never homologated......and you try convincing a French FIA official otherwise.

[Slow M]

Apologies for muddying this issue!
Apparently, some confusion came out of my conversation with Dan at Mershon's regarding the five stud hubs.
The following from an email with Mike Mooney.
"I NEVER mentioned anything about the 5-lug
bolt patterns. With regard to the 000 car, since Jack Griffith was also a Jaguar dealer at
Griffith Ford in Hicksville, NY, he not only used the Jag parts in the 000 car but also in the
one-off Griffith Sprint as outlined in my book. I am waiting for a call from Willie Seitz to verify
some of the finer details of 000 and the rear hub carriers. I do know that since some of the
customers who purchased the Series 200 cars asked for Jag rears to be installed, Willie and
George (Clark) had a company named WES Engineering which did the pre-delivery diff
changes on the cars and therefore, as both of them were employed by Griffith, the cars were
considered to have been factory-fitted with the Jag rears but, as I recall, and will be either
verified or not by Willie, the rear hubs remained the 4-bolt unit.
I have offered to write in detail or to meet with any FIA official to make sure that the historical
changes were all part of the original factory production."

[stainless_steve]

Love the wheels

[Obiwonkeyblokey]

I emailed tham and they are looking for 79,900 USD for the car - seems pricey?

[Slow M]

I spoke with Dan a few days ago, he told me that they bought it for 55 and would sell for 65.
B.

[jellison]

It looked like that (with those wheels and the mods it has not) maybe even the 5 spokes (look like early Shelbys) from not not after it was built.

J (no.3 ).

Has it sold yet?