Half white is still black?

[singlecoil]

So how does that work then? Obama's mother was white, but he's black? If three of his grandparents were white would he still be black? How about 7 of his great grandparents being white, would he still be black then?

[Hoppy2008]

I'm colourblind

[Heskey]

singlecoil said:

So how does that work then? Obama's mother was white, but he's black? If three of his grandparents were white would he still be black? How about 7 of his great grandparents being white, would he still be black then?

Cmon you know this it's basic genetics.

Black parents, black kid, black mum/dad & white mum/dad, half-caste kid, half-caste parent + black/white parent = More dilusion of skin colour genes.

Obama doesn't look extremely black to me, looks more half-caste, ergo white mother?

[Chris71]

It's a genetic thing. A friend of a friend looks 100% white and european, his sister looks 100% afro-carribean. His dad is black, his mum is white. Harsh 'milkman' jokes aside, it's basically just to chance which genes pop up.

Heard a while back that the skin pigment gene (or whatever it is) can actually skip a couple of generations. That must be a difficult one to explain!

[Bing o]

God, you think that half of PH had never seen anyone other than aryans judging by half of the thread titles on here - fking grow up and move on.

[Nervus]

Chris71 said:

It's a genetic thing. A friend of a friend looks 100% white and european, his sister looks 100% afro-carribean. His dad is black, his mum is white. Harsh 'milkman' jokes aside, it's basically just to chance which genes pop up.

Heard a while back that the skin pigment gene (or whatever it is) can actually skip a couple of generations. That must be a difficult one to explain!

I've heard this before but wondered if it just some doc keeping the peace.

Similarly my mates GP told my mates GF that gonorrhea isn't necessarily sexually transmitted

[Simpo Two]

By coincidence not unlike Lewis Hamilton.

I find it very strange how in this world where no-one is supposed to mention race, the media bang on and on about 'first black president, first black racing driver'. All that should be counted in a 'raceless' society is what they achieve and what they say, not the colour of their skin!

Which just goes to prove what a fantasy a raceless society is I suppose.

[james_tigerwoods]

I've never understood why Black Americans (born in the US) are still classed as "African Americans", why not just "Black Americans"?

I'm slightly darker than Lewis Hamilton - am I Black. Or Brown.

Saying that a white (PH regular) friend of mine says that he's blacker than me...

[VladD]

james_tigerwoods said:

I've never understood why Black Americans (born in the US) are still classed as "African Americans", why not just "Black Americans"?

I'm slightly darker than Lewis Hamilton - am I Black. Or Brown.

Saying that a white (PH regular) friend of mine says that he's blacker than me...

I think that you'll find that Brown is white. At least he appeared that way in parliament today. Cilla Black is actually Cilla White and it white, while Roger Black is also white. However, none of this explains David Dickenson.

[james_tigerwoods]

VladD said:

james_tigerwoods said:

I've never understood why Black Americans (born in the US) are still classed as "African Americans", why not just "Black Americans"?

I'm slightly darker than Lewis Hamilton - am I Black. Or Brown.

Saying that a white (PH regular) friend of mine says that he's blacker than me...

I think that you'll find that Brown is white. At least he appeared that way in parliament today. Cilla Black is actually Cilla White and it white, while Roger Black is also white. However, none of this explains David Dickenson.

Or Des O'Connor - or Sue Whatserface from Question of Sport (Barker?)....

Nothing, but [b]nothing[b] explains David Dickinson

[singlecoil]

Simpo Two said:

By coincidence not unlike Lewis Hamilton.

I find it very strange how in this world where no-one is supposed to mention race, the media bang on and on about 'first black president, first black racing driver'. All that should be counted in a 'raceless' society is what they achieve and what they say, not the colour of their skin!

Which just goes to prove what a fantasy a raceless society is I suppose.

Thanks for that, I was starting to think my point was going to be completely missed.

[Spiritual_Beggar]

Lol

He is black! Why do people question this.

You call Tiger Woods black, and he has a chinese mother! so what do you want to call him?

Just think about it a second....you are'nt going to start reclassifying races are you. Half-cast has a sort of 'wanderer' feel to it. He's not a refugee you know.

"He speaks for the half-cast community"; that term just doesnt sound right, does it.

[hugoagogo]

VladD said:

james_tigerwoods said:

I've never understood why Black Americans (born in the US) are still classed as "African Americans", why not just "Black Americans"?

I'm slightly darker than Lewis Hamilton - am I Black. Or Brown.

Saying that a white (PH regular) friend of mine says that he's blacker than me...

I think that you'll find that Brown is white. At least he appeared that way in parliament today. Cilla Black is actually Cilla White and it white, while Roger Black is also white. However, none of this explains David Dickenson.

Honor Blackman was a white woman (yer honour)
Barry White was black though

[Spiritual_Beggar]

Also,

since we are talking about this;

Which category does Michael Jackson fall under? Think about it Which box does he tick on the green card i wonder?

[Nervus]

james_tigerwoods said:

I've never understood why Black Americans (born in the US) are still classed as "African Americans", why not just "Black Americans"?

I'm slightly darker than Lewis Hamilton - am I Black. Or Brown.

Saying that a white (PH regular) friend of mine says that he's blacker than me...

Your brown as black isn't really a colour. Even the darkest of brown skinned people are technically still brown in colour. Similar to how White is used to describe caucasian origin.

Black is the accepted PC term for skin colour of someone with afro-american DNA regardless colour of intesity.

[10 Pence Short]

Spiritual_Beggar said:

Which category does Michael Jackson fall under? Think about it Which box does he tick on the green card i wonder?

Paedophile?

Actually, the only thing he should fall under is the 08.32 from Paddington.

[Nobby Diesel]

Nervus said:

james_tigerwoods said:

I've never understood why Black Americans (born in the US) are still classed as "African Americans", why not just "Black Americans"?

I'm slightly darker than Lewis Hamilton - am I Black. Or Brown.

Saying that a white (PH regular) friend of mine says that he's blacker than me...

Your brown as black isn't really a colour. Even the darkest of brown skinned people are technically still brown in colour. Similar to how White is used to describe caucasian origin.

Black is the accepted PC term for skin colour of someone with afro-american DNA regardless colour of intesity.

Got to disagree Nervous.

I've just been out to the shops in High Wycombe and I saw big Nigerian "brown" bloke who was so black, he was blue. If you see what I mean.

[james_tigerwoods]

I think the argument is/could be over gradients of "Blackness" - A Nigerian is black, but what about someone who isn't that black like Tiger Woods?

I'm not saying that people should be reclassified, I'm just curious what people may think - I suppose sometimes it's annoying for "celebrities" to point out that they had a great-great-great grandmother who was Hispanic so understands their plight*

* Bad example, but I hope you get my point

[tinman0]

Spiritual_Beggar said:

You call Tiger Woods black, and he has a chinese mother!

[pedant]
Thai mother
[/pedant]

Edited by tinman0 on Wednesday 5th November 13:28

[Davi]

Chris71 said:

Heard a while back that the skin pigment gene (or whatever it is) can actually skip a couple of generations. That must be a difficult one to explain!

My old secretary was warned about this (or at least, her bloke was!). Her paternal grandmother was black, and although both her and her OH have no pigmentation it was still entirely possible for her to have a black child. Amazing what gene's can do!