Frontpage 2002 V DreamweaverDX

[ribol]

To all you techies out there, using simple English what would you say are the pros and cons of using either for building a website? I realise there is no simple answer but assuming you had access to both but had to choose one, which would you choose and why?

Ivan

[FourWheelDrift]

I don't and never have used Frontpage, I've always used either Macromedia Studio MX (inc Dreamweaver) or Adobe products.

Maybe there's something then. I'll avoid Frontpage, always.

[Pies]

Im currently using Frontpage,as its my first website it seemed the easiest way to get started.It has limitations as i am finding out,but it is easy to use.

Once im more confident i'll move over to Dreamweaver

If i was starting from scratch now i'll jump straight to Dreamweaver

HTH

[ribol]

Pies said:

It has limitations as i am finding out,but it is easy to use.

Any simple examples?

Ivan

[Pies]

Difficult to give precise examples,but the editing/formatting is just like "Word".You dont deal directly with any script when inserting pics etc, you just click on where you want the photo to be and insert its basically WYSIWYG.

The downside is its not so versatile

One other thing when looking for somebody to host your website it needs to support frontpage and generally this puts the price up

HTH

edited wrong smiley

>> Edited by Pies on Saturday 4th October 18:16

[miniman]

Pro: Macromedia

Con: Microsoft

Case closed, IMHO.

[B19GRR]

Being an ex-semi Macromedia employee I may appear biased here but I wouldn't touch Frontpage if you offered me Bill Gate's bank details, ermmm well maybe ;-)

Frontpage produces crappy, excessively complicated HTML using Microsofts own crappy interpretation of HTML standards, ie the stuff it produces rarely works in any other browser/OS than Windoze IE.

At the end of the day just learn HTML it really isn't difficult. I do all my coding in a text editor, although luckily I rarely have to do any websites these days!

Jaded Internet Veteran,
Rob

[joust]

Pies said:

Difficult to give precise examples,but the editing/formatting is just like "Word".You dont deal directly with any script when inserting pics etc, you just click on where you want the photo to be and insert its basically WYSIWYG.The downside is its not so versatile

If you get used to it you can do "funky" things. www.lotus-elise.org.uk is completly built in Frontpage (cause I get it free under MSDN licensing and I'm too lazy to learn anything else )

pies said:

One other thing when looking for somebody to host your website it needs to support frontpage and generally this puts the price up

There are plenty of FP enabled webspace's that don't cost a fortune.
Small plug - sorry Ted but it is to illustate a point - if you look at www.microsoft.com/uk/office/wpp.asp and look for a terribly "easy" one you can get FP web space for <£10 per month - there are lots of others there as well

If you speak extra nice to me I'll even sort out out a "special rate"

J

[Pies]

Joust mate i agree entirely but non fp support is usually less i know its not much.....but im tight

Still think Dreamweaver has more features but i suppose it does depend on

a,how skilled you are

b,whatyou want your site to do

[joust]

Pies said:

Joust mate i agree entirely but non fp support is usually less i know its not much.....but im tight

We all know that mate!

[Pies]

I'll see you tomorrow

[Bodo]

joust said:

If you get used to it you can do "funky" things. www.lotus-elise.org.uk is completly built in Frontpage (cause I get it free under MSDN licensing and I'm too lazy to learn anything else )

*cough* errm Joust, the 'Scotland' link on the 'Elise' page seems to be not linked correctly in FP

[joust]

I know - it's like that on purpose to keep reminding me to stuck the dam things up (been busy lately

Thanks for the reminder old bean (and yes - FP complains every time I check the links about it )

[joust]

Pies said:

I'll see you tomorrow

You buying the drinks then?????

I should be there - been flat out with this cold thingy but feeling better now and Nightnurse should sort me out!

Car might be a bit dirty though - not a good idea to clean it with the remanats of a cold in the freezing morning though me thinks!

J

[Pies]

You turn up im buying

See im not that tight

[Liszt]

B19GRR said:

I do all my coding in a text editor

Couldn't live without notepad

[B19GRR]

Liszt said:

B19GRR said: I do all my coding in a text editor Couldn't live without notepad

I stick with BBEdit on my ancient Mac, or UltraEdit if I'm forced to work on the darkside

[joolzb]

If you don't use notepad you're gay. I use Visual InterDev, d'oh!

Prob with a lot of these packages is the amount of sh@ they produce in the resulting source file.

[ribol]

Summing up what I have been told so far it would seeem that Dreamweaver is a slightly better package but not as easy to use as Frontpage. Frontpage is easier to learn but cost more to host so long term dearer to maintain. All in all, no big pros and cons for either.

Ivan

[Pies]

Just to put the cost into perspective i am paying $99 (yes us dollars)for one year including domain registration,fp support,600mb space,but only 3.5 gig of bandwidth(not sure thats enough)and other stuff im not intrested in etc

HTH