Oestopathy / Chricopratcor ?
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I have been having some tightness in my upper and lower back, I have had it massaged a few times and it has loosened up, the massage person mentioend Chiropractic treatment today (they don;t offer it so not trying to sell me anything)
I've been reading up on both of these since and they seem similar
Has anyone had any treatment / whats it like?
I've been reading up on both of these since and they seem similar
Has anyone had any treatment / whats it like?
Dr Chris Pickard will help you put your spine in line and you'll feel just fine.
Finchley or Brookmans Park
If you're near these locations.
Finchley or Brookmans Park
If you're near these locations.
Edited by Glassman on Monday 27th October 20:51
i used to see a Chiropracter in harley street for chronic RSI pains
it used to bring about almost immediate releif and I could go back to work and use the mouse and keyboard again
no substitiute for a healthy, active lifetyle and all round good posture though
its a lot more heavy duty than osteopathic work... not for the squeamish i'd say
you have to place quite a lot of trust in them
this chap used to come down on teh middle of my spine with all his weight
it would have got very messy if he'd ever got it it wrong
it used to bring about almost immediate releif and I could go back to work and use the mouse and keyboard again
no substitiute for a healthy, active lifetyle and all round good posture though
its a lot more heavy duty than osteopathic work... not for the squeamish i'd say
you have to place quite a lot of trust in them
this chap used to come down on teh middle of my spine with all his weight
it would have got very messy if he'd ever got it it wrong
Edited by jackal on Monday 27th October 20:56
I had chiropractic work for the past 7 years after a football accident.
Now have a couple of slipped discs which after a number of physio sessions seem to be that I have had minor slippage since my accident which has been masked by chiropractors. Speaking to Doctors, physio etc they do not recommend them. I am now of the opinon (and it is only my opinion!!!) that they sorted the pain but did not solve the root cause of the problem.
Now waiting for my neuro surgeon appointment and MRI scan later this week....
Now have a couple of slipped discs which after a number of physio sessions seem to be that I have had minor slippage since my accident which has been masked by chiropractors. Speaking to Doctors, physio etc they do not recommend them. I am now of the opinon (and it is only my opinion!!!) that they sorted the pain but did not solve the root cause of the problem.
Now waiting for my neuro surgeon appointment and MRI scan later this week....
Six of one and half a dozen of the other.
A reliable osteopath or chiropractor has a good pair of hands and can manipulate a spine to provide relief from a number of sprains and strains around the low back area. They cannot move, relocate, or reset your spine despite what they might claim. NEVER allow either to manipulate your neck - disasterous consquences can follow.
Either type of practitioner who claims to have skills in other areas (allergies, asthma, sinusitis, irritable bowel for example) is to be treated with deep suspicion.
For good, informed, well researched and evidence based information on both (as well as many other alternative practitioners) see: http://www.quackwatch.org/ - it's rather American orientated but many of the messages are just as relevant over here.
A reliable osteopath or chiropractor has a good pair of hands and can manipulate a spine to provide relief from a number of sprains and strains around the low back area. They cannot move, relocate, or reset your spine despite what they might claim. NEVER allow either to manipulate your neck - disasterous consquences can follow.
Either type of practitioner who claims to have skills in other areas (allergies, asthma, sinusitis, irritable bowel for example) is to be treated with deep suspicion.
For good, informed, well researched and evidence based information on both (as well as many other alternative practitioners) see: http://www.quackwatch.org/ - it's rather American orientated but many of the messages are just as relevant over here.
I've been seeing an osteopath for the last 2.5 years after a car accident, and he's done a great job with the symptoms - pain is massively decreased and I can do things I couldn't directly after the crash.
However after a recent MRI showing disc damage and bulging etc., I'm now seeing an excellent physio, who is a lot more aggressive and addressing the root causes with exercises and painful manipulation, but in 3 sessions I've seen a massive improvement.
Each to their own, but from what I can tell osteo/chiro are good at symptoms and perhaps minor root causes, but for the big stuff you need to address it with ongoing strengthening and stretching etc.
However after a recent MRI showing disc damage and bulging etc., I'm now seeing an excellent physio, who is a lot more aggressive and addressing the root causes with exercises and painful manipulation, but in 3 sessions I've seen a massive improvement.
Each to their own, but from what I can tell osteo/chiro are good at symptoms and perhaps minor root causes, but for the big stuff you need to address it with ongoing strengthening and stretching etc.
wainy said:
I had chiropractic work for the past 7 years after a football accident.
Now have a couple of slipped discs which after a number of physio sessions seem to be that I have had minor slippage since my accident which has been masked by chiropractors. Speaking to Doctors, physio etc they do not recommend them. I am now of the opinon (and it is only my opinion!!!) that they sorted the pain but did not solve the root cause of the problem.
Now waiting for my neuro surgeon appointment and MRI scan later this week....
I've have had many a spinal op but unfortunately there is literally no guarantees whatsoever and quite a good chance of coming out worse.Now have a couple of slipped discs which after a number of physio sessions seem to be that I have had minor slippage since my accident which has been masked by chiropractors. Speaking to Doctors, physio etc they do not recommend them. I am now of the opinon (and it is only my opinion!!!) that they sorted the pain but did not solve the root cause of the problem.
Now waiting for my neuro surgeon appointment and MRI scan later this week....
Before going under the Surgeons knife, have a read of the book linked below.
For a few quid he has helped thousands of people.
Read feedback on Amazon US and UK sites, do google for more info.
May not work but worth a read before a surgeon has a go at you.
It is slowly working for me.
Dr John Sarno.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Healing-Back-Pain-John-Sar...
69 coupe said:
wainy said:
I had chiropractic work for the past 7 years after a football accident.
Now have a couple of slipped discs which after a number of physio sessions seem to be that I have had minor slippage since my accident which has been masked by chiropractors. Speaking to Doctors, physio etc they do not recommend them. I am now of the opinon (and it is only my opinion!!!) that they sorted the pain but did not solve the root cause of the problem.
Now waiting for my neuro surgeon appointment and MRI scan later this week....
I've have had many a spinal op but unfortunately there is literally no guarantees whatsoever and quite a good chance of coming out worse.Now have a couple of slipped discs which after a number of physio sessions seem to be that I have had minor slippage since my accident which has been masked by chiropractors. Speaking to Doctors, physio etc they do not recommend them. I am now of the opinon (and it is only my opinion!!!) that they sorted the pain but did not solve the root cause of the problem.
Now waiting for my neuro surgeon appointment and MRI scan later this week....
Before going under the Surgeons knife, have a read of the book linked below.
For a few quid he has helped thousands of people.
Read feedback on Amazon US and UK sites, do google for more info.
May not work but worth a read before a surgeon has a go at you.
It is slowly working for me.
Dr John Sarno.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Healing-Back-Pain-John-Sar...
There are only so many ways to skin a cat. Physio spinal mobs / chiropractic "adjustments" / osteopath manipulation etc are all much of a muchness at the practical end for the patient. Patients with back pain like transfering responsibility for getting made better onto their therapist of choice. Mobs/manips/adjustments fit the bill because someone has done something to you. Sometimes there are good clinical reasons to use these treatments. Frequently there are very good clinical reasons not to. Occasionally there are very good reasons why these treatments should be the last thing to be used. Quite often the very thing that a patient does need is some advice and guidence as to what they should be doing for themselves with minimal or no physical intervention. If the OP is improving with massage then stick with it, ask to be shown a few simple stretches and do them. Don't think you need a manipulation guru.
renmure
/manipulation guru
renmure
/manipulation guru
Well I went in for a check up today and the guy did some tests, basically suggested that on of the bits of my spine in the lower back was slightly twisted - which makes sense as its pain specifically i nthat area.
Gonan go back tomorrow for soem treatment, he did say its quite a simple problem so hopefulyl should be solved - it does 'feel' a more deeper problem than what massage can solve.
Gonan go back tomorrow for soem treatment, he did say its quite a simple problem so hopefulyl should be solved - it does 'feel' a more deeper problem than what massage can solve.
I've been going to osteopaths for the past few years and recommend them highly. Obviously go to one that makes you feel comfortable. Oh and heed this advice;
If you go to one that looks like James Drefus (Thin Blue Line actor) and is equally as camp, and he says that he needs you to strip to your pants and bend over to touch your toes - it's not true. Trust me, I found out the "hard" way (even though no *physical* violation took place). Also, if the treatment he suggests includes you lying on your side, knees to your chest with him rhymthically and gently thrusting his groin against your lower back; politely decline. Again, I found out the hard way (though no physical penetration occurred and I had my trousers on).
And no - the above is not the reason I *still* go to osteopaths. It is the reason, however, I go to one that is married and has never asked me to take my trousers off...
If you go to one that looks like James Drefus (Thin Blue Line actor) and is equally as camp, and he says that he needs you to strip to your pants and bend over to touch your toes - it's not true. Trust me, I found out the "hard" way (even though no *physical* violation took place). Also, if the treatment he suggests includes you lying on your side, knees to your chest with him rhymthically and gently thrusting his groin against your lower back; politely decline. Again, I found out the hard way (though no physical penetration occurred and I had my trousers on).
And no - the above is not the reason I *still* go to osteopaths. It is the reason, however, I go to one that is married and has never asked me to take my trousers off...
Landlord said:
I've been going to osteopaths for the past few years and recommend them highly. Obviously go to one that makes you feel comfortable. Oh and heed this advice;
If you go to one that looks like James Drefus (Thin Blue Line actor) and is equally as camp, and he says that he needs you to strip to your pants and bend over to touch your toes - it's not true. Trust me, I found out the "hard" way (even though no *physical* violation took place). Also, if the treatment he suggests includes you lying on your side, knees to your chest with him rhymthically and gently thrusting his groin against your lower back; politely decline. Again, I found out the hard way (though no physical penetration occurred and I had my trousers on).
And no - the above is not the reason I *still* go to osteopaths. It is the reason, however, I go to one that is married and has never asked me to take my trousers off...
The shame of the resultant semi being too much to handle?If you go to one that looks like James Drefus (Thin Blue Line actor) and is equally as camp, and he says that he needs you to strip to your pants and bend over to touch your toes - it's not true. Trust me, I found out the "hard" way (even though no *physical* violation took place). Also, if the treatment he suggests includes you lying on your side, knees to your chest with him rhymthically and gently thrusting his groin against your lower back; politely decline. Again, I found out the hard way (though no physical penetration occurred and I had my trousers on).
And no - the above is not the reason I *still* go to osteopaths. It is the reason, however, I go to one that is married and has never asked me to take my trousers off...
G'kar said:
Landlord said:
I've been going to osteopaths for the past few years and recommend them highly. Obviously go to one that makes you feel comfortable. Oh and heed this advice;
If you go to one that looks like James Drefus (Thin Blue Line actor) and is equally as camp, and he says that he needs you to strip to your pants and bend over to touch your toes - it's not true. Trust me, I found out the "hard" way (even though no *physical* violation took place). Also, if the treatment he suggests includes you lying on your side, knees to your chest with him rhymthically and gently thrusting his groin against your lower back; politely decline. Again, I found out the hard way (though no physical penetration occurred and I had my trousers on).
And no - the above is not the reason I *still* go to osteopaths. It is the reason, however, I go to one that is married and has never asked me to take my trousers off...
The shame of the resultant semi being too much to handle?If you go to one that looks like James Drefus (Thin Blue Line actor) and is equally as camp, and he says that he needs you to strip to your pants and bend over to touch your toes - it's not true. Trust me, I found out the "hard" way (even though no *physical* violation took place). Also, if the treatment he suggests includes you lying on your side, knees to your chest with him rhymthically and gently thrusting his groin against your lower back; politely decline. Again, I found out the hard way (though no physical penetration occurred and I had my trousers on).
And no - the above is not the reason I *still* go to osteopaths. It is the reason, however, I go to one that is married and has never asked me to take my trousers off...
king awful clothed, let alone in my pants and touching my toes. 
So I went today and he did 2 moves which caused loud nosies, but damn the releif was instant - very noticeable.
So far I've paid £17 for the consultation and £36 for one session.
Now the guy wants to see me again tomorrow which I will go to. And then once more next week and once more the week after - not so sure on those ones. The theory is my body is used to the way it was so will be 'the change' done in the near future to keep it the way it is now - which makes sense, but its expensive!
Thoughts?
So far I've paid £17 for the consultation and £36 for one session.
Now the guy wants to see me again tomorrow which I will go to. And then once more next week and once more the week after - not so sure on those ones. The theory is my body is used to the way it was so will be 'the change' done in the near future to keep it the way it is now - which makes sense, but its expensive!
Thoughts?
SWMBO has been to a chiropractor this year. The crunching noises did seem a bit scary to start with, but it has made a massive difference for her.
We were a bit concerned with the "is it science" bit before she went - but she was in agony and was munching Tylex like smarties and she had to do something.
It works for her - and that is good enough for me.
We were a bit concerned with the "is it science" bit before she went - but she was in agony and was munching Tylex like smarties and she had to do something.
It works for her - and that is good enough for me.
mouk786 said:
So I went today and he did 2 moves which caused loud nosies, but damn the releif was instant - very noticeable.
So far I've paid £17 for the consultation and £36 for one session.
Now the guy wants to see me again tomorrow which I will go to. And then once more next week and once more the week after - not so sure on those ones. The theory is my body is used to the way it was so will be 'the change' done in the near future to keep it the way it is now - which makes sense, but its expensive!
Thoughts?
It's expensive, but it works, so is there a problem? So far I've paid £17 for the consultation and £36 for one session.
Now the guy wants to see me again tomorrow which I will go to. And then once more next week and once more the week after - not so sure on those ones. The theory is my body is used to the way it was so will be 'the change' done in the near future to keep it the way it is now - which makes sense, but its expensive!
Thoughts?
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